When Indiana went to multi class basketball in the high schools, it seems to me that not only did the interest in high school basketball go down but so did the quality of the players in the state. Couple that with video game basketball, the growth of AAU basketball where defense never is taught and when all star teams are formed to play street ball, basketball has slipped in the state of Indiana and maybe in the entire country. Yet, IU fans insist on recruiting locally and couple that with an insistence that unless IU recruits the best players in the state, the coach has failed. Well, how has that worked out lately? Yes, Cody Zeller and Yogi Ferrell were nice players but since then our Mr. Basketballs have been busts or underachievers. We as loyal Hoosier followers have got to encourage our coaches to seek out the best players regardless of where they are from and should not criticize them or second guess them if they don't agree when we say that the Hoosier kids are the best. Having said that, I congratulate Woodson for getting the Florida kid for next year and the Centerville kid for the year after. I view them as good recruits who might be great and hope that Hoosier fans will welcome them with open arms.
Hoosier fans have got to view the entire country for touting recruits, not just Indiana
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There's more than enough quality high school basketball players in Indiana in each graduating class that IU would be foolish not to make recruiting the state of Indiana a top priority. IU has missed on several blue chip kids from the state of Indiana the last two decades.
I don't think it is that IU fans insist on recruiting only locally... it's that fans see players and teams have great success with players that are local and not on IU when IU is not doing as well.
And while they lost, Goode played some huge minutes for Illinois as a freshman. Laravia had a nice year at wake forest. I'm sure there are others.
It amazes me how Caleb Furst shoots 3s. I am not sure out of the 30 games of his I saw in High School he ever took one.
That's a tired old argument, imo. If IU is winning, fans could care less where the players come from. But, it's also equally foolish to ignore IN players, when we have the best advantage to recruit those players. What's frustrating to me, is how poorly we shoot the ball, and how many good shooters there are in IN. Can they all play at the high D1 level, obviously not, but certainly some can. I've said all year you could go to almost any IN high school conference and find 4-6 kids who can shoot the ball better than any player we have on our roster right now. Finding those kids who can play at a high level, and shoot the ball would be a good start, but I could care less if they come from Indiana or India.
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Starters
5 - TJD
4 - Laravia (Wake Forest)
3 - Wesley (Notre Dame)
2 - Ivey (PUkes)
1 - Pack (KSU)
Bench
Armaan Franklin
Keion Brooks
Trey Galloway
Caleb Furst
REMOVED - Wendell Green (Auburn)
Tony Perkins (Iowa)
That's a title team. Only Brooks and Furst were snubs to IU (and Fust probably comes here without Archie).
It's just too bad there isn't any talent in Indiana
5 - TJD
4 - Laravia (Wake Forest)
3 - Wesley (Notre Dame)
2 - Ivey (PUkes)
1 - Pack (KSU)
Bench
Armaan Franklin
Keion Brooks
Trey Galloway
Caleb Furst
REMOVED - Wendell Green (Auburn)
Tony Perkins (Iowa)
That's a title team. Only Brooks and Furst were snubs to IU (and Fust probably comes here without Archie).
It's just too bad there isn't any talent in Indiana
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Sasha, Newman, and redshirting Kaufman-Renn.
I was only putting players on the team who actually play... but thanks for stopping by. IU already has guys to go 0-4 from 3
Bah, ok. Didn't dig into him since he was only a 3 star. Avoided putting Tyger Campbell on the team for the same reason.
It cycles...
I'm not a oh we must geta Indiana guy's..
Unless their Zeller..McRoberts.. ..Ferrell...Gordon..
Then you must prioritize those kind..
I'm not a oh we must geta Indiana guy's..
Unless their Zeller..McRoberts.. ..Ferrell...Gordon..
Then you must prioritize those kind..
Well last night the kids from Chicago and Canada were tremendous. If you think Purdue would have won without them, you are sadly mistaken.
In high school, many of those good shooters are shooting over five foot ten kids. The question becomes can they shoot when guarded by six foot four guards who can jump out of the gym? Obviously our IU kids could not. So that brings me back to my problem with AAU ball. If the AAU coaches stressed or even tried to teach defense, we might be able to find out how great these super high school shooters really are. But that never happens since the AAU kids prefer games of 110-108.
Got ya. Didn't know if you were intentionally missing a guy that's 31 points from 1000 with 225 3's at an almost 40% clip or not.
Thanks for welcoming me. Fun conversation!
Butler had a nice couple of years when it had Gordon Hayward (Brownsburg) and Matt Howard (Connersville) on it.
Anyone see a team with kids from these places: Milwaukee, Buffalo, Houston, Paris, Massachusetts, Chicago, San Antonio, Paris, San Diego, Los Angeles, Louisiana? You can watch them Thursday. How did they all get on one team?
Indeed fans will not care about where the players were raised if we are winning.
I like having Indiana kids on the roster, they grew up following IU and often "get it". IU has been able to select the best of the IN kids with some exceptions usually tied to a coaching situation (Sampson, late crean, late AM).
There are some. I saw Nick Klaiber get shots at will against bigger athletes playing Cathedral Saturday. Pretty decent athlete that took over at times. Can hit shots off the dribble. Fade away shot is nice too.
Hey @PurdueGator2
What specifically is funny about my post? Be specific.
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What specifically is funny about my post? Be specific.
Win big game run to IU board to troll. Rent Free xxx.
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Woody, being a star player at Broad Ripple high should give us an edge at Indy-area schools. I know he played in a long ago era, but he’s know by even younger players. It seems like every year there are very good players coming out of the area, many who go elsewhere.
I can't be 2 people, so I guess you will have to choose one of the above. Shouldn't be an issue since you like making up fictional stats about how well Purdue travels.
Coeds in over stressed busses stamped with an over sized load warning?
This seems unnecessary. I'll talk to you when you show a little respect. It's pretty easy to do.
and a sign that says "toxic odor keep 100' feet distance"?
I don't think it's the quality or abundance of IN players that have slipped, more like the quality of the program to rely on in state talent alone. We need both, the top in state when we can. Right now we are getting OK instate players and better players from out of state that don't want to go to their crap in state program. Winning will change the balance there and if it doesn't for a while big deal, it's not like the majority of players from Duke are UK are in state, they just get the best players. In fact it seems there is like a dearth of talent going anywhere from either NC or KY lately
You responded for PUkeGator so it was a logical question. Some of you guys log in and out of multiple accounts (see ordy) so it happens.
Too bad you apparently didn't watch the game last night, you would have liked it.
Agreed, take the best in-state players that fit the university and program and then battle for the same ones out of state. Coaching stability always gets us back where we belong from a recruiting standpoint in and out of state. Crean, Sampson and AM's last year(s) is where we always lost kids that should have been Hoosiers.
One account for me. No reason to hide. I did watch the game. Heard loud cheers for Purdue. Saw way more Purdue fans then Texas fans on TV. At one point, I even heard a go Boilers chant. Wisconsin dominated the seats though, which is to be expected given the location.
Short drive from Laff, Chi, even Indy. Someone should have told you guys you could buy tickets.
What would really help is if we had any pipeline to IL again. Where are all these Chicago players going, it doesn't seem like most to the Iliini, I think Duke, UK, UNC. We need someone who can raid that market again. RMK did it and Peoria and Sampson was starting to get it going in Chicago. Fife should be responsible for it too, but I think he'll have a hard road raiding MU/MSU prospects until at least we start being the better program again, that's no reason he shouldn't start to try though.
Couldn't tell ya what the numbers breakdown was. Looked like there was a decent showing though. You act like purdue had no fans there. Gimme fanbase breakdown numbers.
Interesting topic, for sure, but for the record, Sasha’s only P5 offer was PU and it came late, at the end of his Senior season, Feb of ‘17 when Painter missed out on higher rated kids. It was all MAC, MVC and Ivy’s to that point. To his credit, he never committed to any of them, waiting on the PU offer. He rolled the dice and it worked out with the understanding he also red-shirt. Not a lot of kids would be that patient. He’s had a heck of career and worked his ass off to get on the floor as much as he has.
Could only imagine the meltdown this board would’ve had if IU offered and signed a kid rated in the high 300’s nationally and around the 75th-100th shooting guard.
Could only imagine the meltdown this board would’ve had if IU offered and signed a kid rated in the high 300’s nationally and around the 75th-100th shooting guard.
Common misconception about AAU ball. There is A LOT of defense played. It’s just usually in the form of trapping presses and zones. MUCH more intense though than typical school ball environments. But those trapping defenses are susceptible to more open shots. If the offensive team has good ball handlers.
I think kids today would be well served to experience both environments and styles.
You mean that small section behind the bench? LOL
There were more of you clowns on this board than that.
