I'm for that, but I don't think it will do much to reduce homicides - too many guns already on the streets.
So you’re saying take away The gun industry immunity so they will be libel? That’s a pretty liberal statement.
Allowing a jury to decide liability is as conservative as it gets. Immunity is government interference with citizen jurors and IMO violates the seventh amendment.
It’s a long term issue snd solution. Sandy Hook was almost 10 years ago. Obama should have started the immunity discussion then and never let up.
Border integrity hasn’t worked on illegal drugs or aliens, I don’t like the idea of people suing a company out of business. It’s just plain wrong. Unless the firearm was defective, then that’s another problem that should be decided in court.
Should I be able to sue Ford if a drunk driver runs over me with his F150?
I don’t think the gun industry will go out of business. No industry has the immunity the gun industry has. It makes gazillions out of producing the instruments people use to kill each other. big Tobacco and Big Oxy learned about the power of civil law. Time for the gun industry to face the music.
Or how about sue the attorney that defended a criminal that he won a bail hearing for, that went out and killed someone. Sounds fair to me. These killers wouldn’t be on the streets if it wasn’t for lawyers!
If such suits were allowed, don't you think breathalyzers would be built into car ignition systems?
Depends on how Ford markets it DBM. Marketing and/or deception related to same is how the big industries get whacked. Same will hold true for the gun industry
There already has been discussion on a NHTSA rule for that.
Have a device you breathe into put of like a CPAP. It collects a random breath number, say breath 6. It would be hard to fool with a balloon as a balloon would have difficulty breathing in.
My mind just wandered to seeing some dudes car with like 15 random inflated balloons in his back seat. Now I would know why.
One of my soccer teammates years ago had a breathalyzer on his car. I'd hide behind his car and peak in the window. Once I'd see him start blowing I'd shake the f*uck out of the car. Couple times it threw off the reading and he'd have to sit for an hour and wait to try again. The old breathalyzers were awful
Over 25 years ago I had to piss in a cup with a man watching me do it. Thankfully I passed or I would have had to continue doing it every month.
Lol that's horrible!!! They used to piss test for ncaa games. A buddy of mine turned his shower into a pot farm. Guy was high all the time. I'd piss in a hotel shampoo bottle for him and he'd take that into the bathroom and then turn it in. They didn't watch then. He finished number 2 in scoring for all of D1. Was high all the time.
This wasn't, ahem, athletics related in the least.
Mostly with his head and brute. He's a donkey on the ball. Super sweet guy though
Sure. Until the first time it malfunctioned and someone died because they couldn’t get to the hospital in an emergency.
Young black males are indeed the problem.
For academic discussion purposes only, would you trade the immunity for a couple of products liability defenses? How about misuse? How about suitability for the purpose manufactured - like the defense covering certain machinery like hog skinning equipment. Both might be a good trade for the manufacturer,
Hog skinning equipment. God Damn. I've never heard of such a thing. I'm having breakfast. There are injuries that arise from defective hog skinning equipment. Man those must be good cases
My car won't run unless it can talk to my key fob. It is the same, if something happened to my fob my car won't run and I couldn't drive to the hospital.
Not necessarily defective, but claimed to be which raises the price of negotiation sky high. A hog skinning machine and a Lot of other tools/equipment must have sharp blades to be suitable for the purpose intended. Lots of tools must spin, cut, gouge, clamp, etc. or they have no value. Likewise a firearm. If it has no discharge and doesn't send a projectile out, it has no value. You can't guard it from firing if its to reach its intended use of firing a projectile. And yes there was a big lawsuit around Logansport in a hog slaughtering operation.
Yikes that sounds awful. I used to get a number of horrific injury cases from punch presses. They were tough. Machines were old as f*ck. Had been altered and rigged over the years etc
I should note that the hog business has made great strides in their butchering technology. There is much less human touch than there use to be. I just looked at a YOu Tube video of hog slaughtering today.Machine guarding has improved to the point that it is nearly impossible for a worker to get hurt on a punch press that is properly guarded. Indiana has long been the manufacturing leader in the nation and we spent a LOT of time and effort training for IOSHA compliance. Brought the lost work injury rates and fatalities way down.
The cases would not be traditional products liability actions. The Oxy litigation would be a good analogy. I think concepts of strict liability for ultra-dangerous products could be a case. I’m thinking of the 3-wheeled ATV’s that were banned because of civil litigation. Such litigation could result in smaller magazines and maybe even limits on semi-auto fire. Gun sales will probably also become more restrictive as sellers would be at risk for nut jobs buying guns under a “should have known” standard of care.
Which leads to the rapid rise in carjackings instead of stealing cars the old fashioned way. Pick your poison.
There is, but the engine requires the fob to be present. Though a Google shows a workaround, but someone might not have time/inclination to Google.
