Greg Popovich ramblings...
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I'm not sure what you mean by this. But 5 of my girls are from Parkland, one of whom's sister was shot. Since then, I've attended gun control meetings and memorials on campus and helped with fundraising for the victims. Sorry that seems to offend you.
I didn't say you said anything bad, although I'd venture to guess they wouldn't say wasting their time was a compliment. Notice you didn't respond when I mentioned the changes that have already taken place.
and exactly who is going to fix those problems? if you think either party is going to do that ,you're sadly mistaken.
I bet you didn't know that, did you? And I didn't mean to imply I thought that - that's just something for a cynic to grab onto and present in an unscrupulous way, which obviously worked in getting you revved up.
The point wasn't to eviscerate Obama or Hillary - I have zero interest in trying to convince anyone of anything - just showing how easy it would be to do it. It's not very difficult depending on what you're trying to do or not do. I figured Trump doesn't need to be discussed given his obvious issues.
Where are you from, Zeke, and how old are you? And what do you do that you have five girls from Parkland?
Also, Zeke, a cynic could point out, again, that Hillary skewered Obama for most of the same things when they ran head to head. So now what? Suddenly the argument is at odds with itself, isn't it? They can't both be saints - they've said as much.
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expertise and experience? we've had about 240 years of that crap. and where's that gotten us. the shit hole we're in now. political parties have screwed our country and our people for over 2 centuries. haven't you had enough yet?
I think an inept, corrupt reality star is probably not the person to try.
Obama is a fuggin moron and you support him, really all we need to know about you
No one is implying anyone is a saint. But implying Trump is the answer for anything is what is insane. When his own advisors admit that he is inept, I'd think most people would have to think they are on to something. You can disagree with both President Obama politically and Hillary. But it's hard to argue that they didn't have an understanding of the basic issues facing our country. And we didn't have to talk about porn stars on the daily, did we? Or makes excuses for him alienating our allies by being a bully, and juvenile name calling. Just to start with.
As for what I do, why is that your business? I don't care if you believe me .
We all know how the education demographics break down. We all know why Trump loves his uneducated. We all know who believes Seth Rich, pedophile ring run out of a pizza parlor, and all the other theories Fox News and the Russian bots brought to you daily. It's ok, own it.
I haven't had enough that I'd think the answer is a vile, corrupt, sexual harassing reality star to fix it. I think we are seeing now what's that has gotten us. We will do better in November.
Can you give me some specific quotes from Obama that promote this divisiveness, as to compare to Trump sticking up for Nazis or calling black countries “shitholes” or calling Mexicans murderers and rapists or claiming he was going to stick up for the LGBTQ community and then (twice) tried to ban transgender people from the military or...
You’re getting awfully defensive over Donald Trump. Professional Celebrity Donald Trump. No one can ever answer what is so appealing about this buffoon. He was just as stupid as a Democrat as well. He continues to promote hate and wasteful spending, lies about stupid crap on a daily basis, lies about job creation, screws up any short term financial positive because every plan is so freaking stupid in the long term, can’t discuss policy because he doesn’t understand it, doesn’t listen to his advisors, has had around 40 people resign/fired/indicted in a year, is a legitimately awful person...what is it about him, of all people? Most politicians are sleazy: Donald Trump is about 50 times worse. That’s why people don’t go around getting quite as crazy about other people that people voted for, because Donald Trump is much worse. He’s been a publicly corrupt ass for 40 years. Why couldn’t someone like Kasich get nominated? A functioning adult? I would’ve voted for him.
And I would still like to see some of those divisive Obama quotes.
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Lots of racists on the left too. Don't forget them. The bottom line is we should all be against racism whether it comes from anybody. It's time everybody recognizes what true racism is and the truth is this white privilege tripe is not it. I'm white and did not have any advantages. I see other races who have done better and worse than me.
I agree. It’s a legitimate issue. Everything is so bipolar. I just don’t understand why many people seem to think that the solution to that problem is Donald Trump. That’s just an entirely different type of problem. There’s no solution there. All we did was replace corruption with more corruption.
First of all, you don’t speak for every human on earth. Second, do you ever get stared at and followed in a convenient store or the mall because of your skin color? Little things like that throughout every day of your life? If not, you need to shut up. I live in southern Indiana and you should see the looks anyone with dark skin gets around here in a public place. And I say this as a white male. I will never understand what it is like to be black. They have to deal with a bunch of crap on a daily basis that I will never have to experience. And until you get that through your thick skull, you’re going to continue to get ripped on here, because you live in a tiny bubble and have no understanding of any life experience outside of that bubble.
I agree with most of what you wrote above, but were you as intolerant of Bill Clinton, then?
I am interested in your background in as much as I am interested in anyone's background who (continues) to insult me and tear me down for anything, in this case because I voted for Trump. It's natural to wonder what someone who does that's background is and those are always the obvious starting points. It didn't cross my mind that you'd think I had sinister intentions with that information, after all, my name is in my signature.
Regarding Parkland, it's not because I don't believe you. I do and was just wondering what you meant by "having five Parkland girls". You offered it up as some kind of validation of your opinion so I didn't think you'd mind expanding on it.
Hell @stollcpa you like to give Steve Alford a second chance for him backing a sexual predator and sending a pastor to talk her out of it, but you aren't willing to give a football player who never committed a crime, spoke up for black rights, but somehow offended you for taking a kneel during the anthem....and you don't see how people don't think that is racist?
Dude why do you keep responding isn’t it obvious I’m fugging with you?
I agree with a lot of what you say but your clearly a garden variety liberal and I enjoy messing with you
You're wrong. I'm not getting awfully defensive of Donald Trump and I'm disappointed in you for coming away from all of this thinking that.
I'm defensive of being called uneducated, wearing a tin foil hat and endorsing everything wrong about Donald Trump just because I voted for him.
I voted for Donald Trump because absent everything else - anything else - I thought he would at least be good on economic issues and those are the issues that appeal to me most (as opposed to education, abortion, etc.). That's it. Seriously - nothing more. I view Hillary in much the same way as Trump and I dislike very much, to the extent she even articulated it, her economic policy. I'm much more conservative on those types of matters.
I agree with your last sentence. I really liked Kasich. My favorite is Marco Rubio. I would've rolled with Ted Cruz. Anyone. Like you said, a functioning adult.
As far as Obama dividing, via Axelrod, dividing America - something I criticized Rove of as well and by extension, Bush, is the strategy of each senior advisor to their president which served them well in terms of winning, but failed the public at large. They won through mis-information, non-information and talking out both sides of their mouths. They parcelled the American public into groups and told each group what they wanted to hear no matter how silly or contradictory the message was when put under the microscope and juxtaposed against other groups. It's not that Obama said things that were divisive, though I'm sure he did just like any president has, it's that he utilized a strategy that divided and conquered, peaking under Axelrod's influence. Obama endorsed it for both his re-election and general second term and I think he grossly underestimated the (lasting) ramifications it would have on Washington and the American people.
PBS has a two-part documentary called the Divided States of America that does a nice job of summing up the issues that led to the disgruntlement that gave birth to Trump - at least in my opinion.
The fact that Rove and Axelrod have toured together is fascinating to me but not altogether surprising.
P.S. I voted for Obama the first time. I only became jaded towards him after his do nothing first term (my opinion) and his scorched earth campaign style for his second term.
P.P.S. Again, this is only my opinion. Obama disappointed me in his first term and then completely turned me off in his second. He went from "we" to "me" and from "us" to "you're with us or against us". And he didn't prosecute a single Wall Street baron. Not one.
Shorter you: "Oh God, someone famous said something I disagree with and I don't have the f***ing nuts to deal with it!"
Grow a pair, you goddamn snowflake.
I don't like the fact that you bitched and moaned about politics on the hoops forum, and then you come here and infect the OTF with your idiotic political ranting. Begone, hypocrite.
You're a snowflake because the fact that other people have opinions gets your panties in such a wad that you can't handle it. So Pop has opinions. Who gives a flying f***? How does it hurt you at all? What gives you the right to even notice, much less complain about it? Again: grow a f***ing pair.
So what you're saying is, you're such a partisan hack, that you'd vote for anyone with an R next to their name, regardless of whether or not they are qualified to actually run anything more complicated than a Candy Land game.
i voted for obama twice. he could have been a really good president. had everything he needed to succeed. the minorities,the young, the liberals, the blue collar middle class white vote.as soon as he was elected he ignored the working middle class. the people that actually got him elected. people like me.he blew it. turned out to be a big disappointment.
He's a Trumptard? Wow, that's sad and pathetic.
Makes sense though - he always had problems getting laid.
There's a button on the right side of the post area. It's called "quote" I get that you're a Trumptard and dumber than a box of rocks but most children could figure out that function. Just how stupid and incompetent are you? Do you wear a drool bib to keep slobber off the keyboard? You should.
And I wish you sleep well and wake up to find you've grown a pair of testicles.
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