This year made zero sense. Consistent would be the last word to describe IU this year. The MSU wins are a glimpse of what this team could be if they can fix the weaknesses.
Get blown out by Duke, beat MSU twice
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Two freshmen and two Sophomores (with one playing out of position at the 4). A 2 freshmen one Sophomore backcourt. Of course they were inconsistent. Green continuing to improve his decision making would play massive dividends. Rob was solid for a freshman and should keep growing fast as a player. Al was the most consistent player we has in the backcourt and has obviously worked hard on his game. The NCAA is very backcourt driven and upperclassmen there really make differences. Things are looking up to me...
Adding TJD and a Brunk to the front court helps. If IU can get Beverly or Quinones and another shooter, that would be huge. Rob is going to be great to have for 4 years. The lightbulb is starting to come on for Devonte. Al is limited, but he is solid.
Phinisee could be very close to a Winston by his senior year...Those three gaurds if they work on their game ..Give us a fighter's chance next year.
But the middle may be a bigger question.
Davis has to get in good shape and stay on the floor TJD.has to go grow up fast ..And realize how physical the Big Ten is ..Hopefully Race or another grad transfer helps..Idk maybe Jake can help a few positive minutes..
But the middle may be a bigger question.
Davis has to get in good shape and stay on the floor TJD.has to go grow up fast ..And realize how physical the Big Ten is ..Hopefully Race or another grad transfer helps..Idk maybe Jake can help a few positive minutes..
I think Jake showed some potential. He certainly looked like a goofball freshman at times and kind of skinny. But, he looked to be every bit of 6'9, played hard, and looked pretty mobile. Agreed about De'Ron: he needs to get healthy. Hunter is a wildcard and could be big if healthy.
I think the guards do need to work on consistent shooting, especially Rob and Al, but I think they can get there. If Al's fingers were injured on his shooting hand and was holding him back, then that is certainly fixable. I think Armaan can shoot, but I don't think he is a lights out shooter at this point. Toss another shooter or two, and the roster is starting to come together.
If people think that Devonte is going to handle some success well and become a smart and trustworthy leader...I really believe they are delusional.
Hopefully Im wrong but watching his mannerisms and actions at the games I went to lead me to believe something is not quite right with that kid.
Him finishing fairly hot is going to create more false hope than he can possibly live up to.
He is NOT a smart basketball player
Hopefully Im wrong but watching his mannerisms and actions at the games I went to lead me to believe something is not quite right with that kid.
Him finishing fairly hot is going to create more false hope than he can possibly live up to.
He is NOT a smart basketball player
The advantage Davis has over last year is that he's not trying to rehab all summer so he can actually work on his game, strength, and conditioning. I how that really pays off next year.
If you seriously believe that this year they had a top 10 team in terms of talent or that there are 340 coaches that are better then you really are delusional. It might be time for grandpa fpeaugh to go into a nursing home where you can get 24/7 care.
Every living soul who knows anything at all about college basketball would agree that you are an idiot.
What would be simple is you having a standard post that specifically proclaims you to be a dumbass rather than paraphrasing all the time.
And there our people who say Archie don't have talent. Talent was there coaching and control of the team not there. Chris Beard lost 5 players he is in the final four Izzo lost 2 Lottery picks..
Did you copy and paste this from Rupp's Rafters today? There are a lot of posts saying the same on there.
We need more one and dones.
They actually made the Elite 8 for the 7th time in 10 years. Something we haven’t done in 17 years. The last time we were there George W was in his 2nd year as president, 9/11 had just happened, the iPhone was 6 years away from even existing, and most people didn’t even carry a cell phone.But, but . . . KENTUCKY MADE THE TOURNAMENT!!
Yet you guys are criticizing UK for being there 7/10 years. As if they have a bad strategy but we don’t. Absolutely clueless stuff from a far away fantasy land.
What is the goal? Just getting to Elite 8's / Sweet 16's? If that was the case we might as well have stuck with Tom Crean.
Turning the roster over every year via a OAD approach leaves you perpetually young. And the deeper you get into tournament play that inexperience too often comes back to bite you. It did both Duke and Kentucky this year - and Duke might have had the best collection of talent (from a raw talent standpoint, anyways) of any team since the OAD rule was put into place in 2006. At least Duke is getting the best of the best to sign up to try to counter the effects of inexperience - like Kentucky used to do.
You say so often having the best players gives you the best chance to win - which I agree with. Where we differ is how we define "best players".
You tend to think just getting raw talent gets it done - and, again, if just getting close to the Final Four every year is the goal, that'll work. You might break thru every once in a while and win a title, but with a roster turnover every year you'll be hard pressed to do it (hasn't happened in the OAD era since 2006). Only UK (2012) and Duke (2015) have won titles with several prominent freshman, but each a significant veteran (Darius Miller, Quinn Cook) that played a BIG part of each team.
@Paterfamilias could probably give us an expanded graphic from what he provided the other day, but all of the teams deep in the tournament have veteran players making significant contributions. Since Kentucky stopped getting the top OAD players, they've lost in the 2nd round (2016 IU), Elite 8 (2017 UNC), Sweet 16 (2018 Kansas St) and Elite 8 (2019 Auburn). In the last two years these great UK teams had the bracket open up to them both times - last year with upsets to where they only had to beat a #9 seed (Kansas State - who had not been ranked at all the entire year) and a #11 seed (Loyola-Chicago) and this year with Auburn (who lost their best player to an ACL injury from Friday night. They failed miserably both times.
Have tried to explain this to you on several occasions, but you keep rooting for the Wildcats. The rest of us want to see a program be built to where veteran guys give you a better chance at consistent success.
EDIT: Nice tweet from ESPN Stats & Info. I know, there’s been no change in the last 4 years for Calipari, right @fpeaugh?
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And yet a lot of Kentucky fans are tired of constantly turning over their roster with these superstars. You'd think they'd be grateful.
Duke hasn't won the ACC since something like 2010 (they didn't again this year btw).
Duke also has only been to two final fours in the past 15 years. Granted they won both of them, but ever since K switched and went full OAD he's got very little to show for it....except for a ton of hype which is good I guess.
Good I guess in a way that both K and Call are HOF coaches and yet their reputations are getting dragged into the mud because of the mis placed importance of the 18 year old phenom.
From K is obviously paying players to last year's public nonsense/drama from Wendell Carter's mom calling him a liar and a modern day slave owner to my favorite after this year....
Has K moved into his Paterno phase of his career where he just sits on the sidelines and tries not to s#$t his pants?
Bwaa haa has haa haaa
Yup, love those one and dones. Totally worth all the drama they bring for one year.
Some could say Coach K is the greatest some also could say with all that talent and only 5 championships when he could of had at least 10.
Wow so he got a two year honeymoon. Well at least that is progress Crean got 3. However, Fred did say this was a major rebuild so a honeymoon is certainly needed.
I did not really think Kentucky was all that great this year and next year they will be about the same. He is still getting alot of five stars but he does not have the teams he did when he had KAT and Stein, etc.
You may as well be talking to a brick wall. Some people on here are 100% convinced Archie is the guy to get this done and needed time in a major rebuilt. They think it is moving in the right direction and do not really expect any meaningful results until year four.
I mean some people still thought Crean was in the guy in year 9 so you will never get through to some them. Archie may end up getting it done but so far he has not been impressive.
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