The point is that if the election were tomorrow that poll would be off by at least 10 points. Guaranteed.
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The point is that if the election were tomorrow that poll would be off by at least 10 points. Guaranteed.
Well there it is, dumbhoosier has laid down a guarantee. Time to pack up and go home.
I do not think Biden would possibly win by 3 today
.Nationally, the late vote broke heavy for Trump in 2016. Some of that Indiana number from 16 is probably that late vote.
DBM also pulled those numbers out of his ass. There was very little late polling in Indiana, and Trump was up by double digits in all of it. He won by 19. The polls accurately picked up a huge shift toward Trump during the last month - WTHR went from Trump +5 to +11 from the beginning of October to the beginning of November. Of course, they still missed by 8 points, but a good chunk of that is almost certainly the rest of that late movement that didn't happen until the final week.I do not think Biden would possibly win by 3 today
Nationally, the late vote broke heavy for Trump in 2016. Some of that Indiana number from 16 is probably that late vote.
There were 3 polls right before the election. They were off by 8-9.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Indiana: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Indiana: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson
Yeah, I know. I was talking about them. You, on the other hand, claimed there were several polls that only showed Trump up 9 from "right before the election." Not only were your numbers inaccurate, but I don't think a week before election day qualifies as "right before the election" when there is strong evidence that Trump made major gains in the Midwest during the last few days before Election Day.There were 3 polls right before the election. They were off by 8-9.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Indiana: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Indiana: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnsonwww.realclearpolitics.com
Yes, traditionally GA-7 has been reliably a GOP district. That's changing, though, as the area has been changing demographically (as you noted) drastically over the last 30 years.
What will be interesting is whether the significant influx of Hispanics into Gwinnett changes the voting dynamics significantly to move the district to the Democratic column or save the GOP's arse there.
New Monmouth poll continues to shade Georgia blue.
Biden up 50-45. Ossoff up 49-47. Warnock leads in special race, and beats both Loeffler and Collins in hypothetical runoff, although they are close, 49-47 vs Loeffler and 51-39 vs Collins.
Biden up 50-45. Ossoff up 49-47. Warnock leads in special race, and beats both Loeffler and Collins in hypothetical runoff, although they are close, 49-47 vs Loeffler and 51-39 vs Collins.
Sen. Kelly Loeffler Says She's 'Not Familiar' With Trump 'Grab 'Em' Tape
The Trump disciple's ignorance about the infamous "Access Hollywood" boast is hard to buy.
She's the richest senator, currently, and she campaigns in tight jeans and checkered shirts (red and white/blue and white). She's just acting . . . a pretender . . . .Sen. Kelly Loeffler Says She's 'Not Familiar' With Trump 'Grab 'Em' Tape
The Trump disciple's ignorance about the infamous "Access Hollywood" boast is hard to buy.www.huffpost.com
Sen. Kelly Loeffler Says She's 'Not Familiar' With Trump 'Grab 'Em' Tape
The Trump disciple's ignorance about the infamous "Access Hollywood" boast is hard to buy.
Ive used the word mendacity more in the last 4 years than at any time in my life.
They make sure they live in a box when it comes to trump so that they can claim that they have heard nothing, seen nothing. Ignorance is their defense.
The problem with both sides is that when they win pretty convincingly they come in all cocky and think they have the green light to do anything they want to when, in fact, most of the time it's a vote against the other party and not a vote in favor of their policies. I remember when Obama won the first time a lot of people were saying the Republican party is dead. However, it's amazing how each party can screw up and get the other party elected. The Republicans do the same thing.... really pretty stupid.
She and her husband own stock exchanges, including the New York Stock Exchange. Yes, she's richer than Romney . . . by far. She's even richer than McConnell . . . .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_wealth
This Is America’s Richest Senator – 24/7 Wall St.
24/7 Wall St. reviewed the estimated net worth of sitting U.S. senators. The net worth of America's richest Senator is about $500 million.
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Georgia scuttlebutt . . . from AJC's The Jolt . . .
www.ajc.com
The Jolt: Votes are churning in Georgia’s Republican counties, too
By Wednesday eve, more than 3.4 million voters had cast ballots, by mail or in-person. And the next 48 hours will be the busiest to come, meaning that we’ll likely surpass the total number of votes cast in 2016 -- 4.1 million. Early-voting participation in Dawson County, the deeply-conservative...
That's a great question. How many liberals will accept the results of the 2020 election if Trump wins?
It’s not for the reason you think. It’s actually because Perdue is a republican snowflake bitch who needs a safe space.
Hay @Sope Creek You know Georgia better than the rest of us. How do you see Perdue's implosion playing out in the final few days?
Sen. Kelly Loeffler Says She's 'Not Familiar' With Trump 'Grab 'Em' Tape
The Trump disciple's ignorance about the infamous "Access Hollywood" boast is hard to buy.
Maybe if he grabbed hers it would jog her memory.
Beats me . . . if I had to guess, I'd be wondering out loud what effect Perdue's withdrawal from the debate might have on turnout. It might give those in favor of Ossoff reason to relax a bit, and not get out the final push for turnout, and it might cause those who support Perdue to give his candidacy - and the Trump movement - the last hurrah.
Perdue is the brother of a very popular former governor here, Sonny Perdue, who is Trump's Secretary of Agriculture. That single fact probably gives the most guidance I can offer. Perdue's candidacy is tightly tied to Trump . . . although his ads don't say that.
My tendency - pure speculation - is to think that Perdue's joining Trump at a rally in Rome, GA is both a white flag - for the election - and a St. Andrews cross flag - indicating the intent that the Trump insurrection lives on. Rome is deep into Marjorie Taylor Greene's soon-to-be district.
Senate debate on WSB canceled after Perdue pulls out of Sunday showdown
The third and final televised debate in the race between U.S. Sen. David Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff was canceled Thursday after the Republican incumbent pulled out to join President Donald Trump in a planned rally in northwest Georgia.
Beats me . . . if I had to guess, I'd be wondering out loud what effect Perdue's withdrawal from the debate might have on turnout. It might give those in favor of Ossoff reason to relax a bit, and not get out the final push for turnout, and it might cause those who support Perdue to give his candidacy - and the Trump movement - the last hurrah.
Perdue is the brother of a very popular former governor here, Sonny Perdue, who is Trump's Secretary of Agriculture. That single fact probably gives the most guidance I can offer. Perdue's candidacy is tightly tied to Trump . . . although his ads don't say that.
My tendency - pure speculation - is to think that Perdue's joining Trump at a rally in Rome, GA is both a white flag - for the election - and a St. Andrews cross flag - indicating the intent that the Trump insurrection lives on. Rome is deep into Marjorie Taylor Greene's soon-to-be district.
Senate debate on WSB canceled after Perdue pulls out of Sunday showdown
The third and final televised debate in the race between U.S. Sen. David Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff was canceled Thursday after the Republican incumbent pulled out to join President Donald Trump in a planned rally in northwest Georgia.
Addendum #1 . . . it might be worth asking what effect that Zeta might have on Georgia's turnout. Some polls couldn't open yesterday, and for some residents cleaning up or getting resettled might be a priority. We had at least 3 are deaths from trees falling on homes, and power is out for a whole bunch of folks . . . SopeJr#2house is without power through today and maybe tomorrow. 350,000 were without power at last count.
Zeta’s impact in metro Atlanta: Death, damage, power outages
Hundreds of thousands are without power Thursday morning as the remnants of Zeta rip through Georgia.
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Addendum #2: 538 has Perdue winning 58 in 100 opportunities. That tells me that Perdue saw no reason to give Ossoff a shot at making up any ground between now and election day, and that's why he pulled out of the final debate on Sunday.Beats me . . . if I had to guess, I'd be wondering out loud what effect Perdue's withdrawal from the debate might have on turnout. It might give those in favor of Ossoff reason to relax a bit, and not get out the final push for turnout, and it might cause those who support Perdue to give his candidacy - and the Trump movement - the last hurrah.
Perdue is the brother of a very popular former governor here, Sonny Perdue, who is Trump's Secretary of Agriculture. That single fact probably gives the most guidance I can offer. Perdue's candidacy is tightly tied to Trump . . . although his ads don't say that.
My tendency - pure speculation - is to think that Perdue's joining Trump at a rally in Rome, GA is both a white flag - for the election - and a St. Andrews cross flag - indicating the intent that the Trump insurrection lives on. Rome is deep into Marjorie Taylor Greene's soon-to-be district.
Senate debate on WSB canceled after Perdue pulls out of Sunday showdown
The third and final televised debate in the race between U.S. Sen. David Perdue and Democrat Jon Ossoff was canceled Thursday after the Republican incumbent pulled out to join President Donald Trump in a planned rally in northwest Georgia.
So, do conservative operatives control where and when power is restored?Addendum #1 . . . it might be worth asking what effect that Zeta might have on Georgia's turnout. Some polls couldn't open yesterday, and for some residents cleaning up or getting resettled might be a priority. We had at least 3 are deaths from trees falling on homes, and power is out for a whole bunch of folks . . . SopeJr#2house is without power through today and maybe tomorrow. 350,000 were without power at last count.
Zeta’s impact in metro Atlanta: Death, damage, power outages
Hundreds of thousands are without power Thursday morning as the remnants of Zeta rip through Georgia.
Utilities' crews determine where and when power is restored. SopeJr#2 lives in a distinctly pro-Trump area. We do too . . . we have power and SopeJr#2 does not. Getting power restored is purely a function of crew availability and how many trees have been downed in the various areas.
