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I just looked through all of the NFL teams, and appears only Oliver (Eagles) and Camiel (Texans) were picked up. Could there still be more? I hope so.....sure doesn't appear Redding made the right decision to leave a year early, if he doesn't even get a shot with a team.
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That's probably part of it. His tested foot speed is what's probably keeping most away. A 5.7 plus 40 is glacial. He looked a lot quicker then that in live action.I'm surprised Big Ralph hasn't gotten a sniff . . . might be because of the 2015 incident on the public record.
While I agree with you that 5.7 is slow by NFL standards, I want it known that I also run the 40 in 5.7. Big Ralph's time is measured in seconds. Mine is measured in days.That's probably part of it. His tested foot speed is what's probably keeping most away. A 5.7 plus 40 is glacial. He looked a lot quicker then that in live action.
I think fandom tends to overrate a lot of players sometimes. If you talk to Purdue fans, they think this guy or that guy should get shot because they've watched him for 4 years and they think he's really good. Ask a Wisconsin fan about that same guy and they'd say no way are they that good. We dominated them for 4 years.There has been a lot of talk from a few posters on here that we will be lucky to get to 5-7 from all that we lost and with the coaching change. They keep pointing to Green and Redding (a lot of love for Big Ralph, especially). I'm not trying to knock them, but I think this goes to my point that we can replace them pretty easily. I really think Hoff alone is just as good as Green, if not better. I've said along, the only place we lose is the OL and it appears the NFL agrees with me.
If only the Pacers had taken Alford instead of that skinny kid from UCLA...It's like that every where you go. Fans know more about the player and they get a personal affection with them because they play for and represent their favorite school. They grow attached and because of that they tend to over-inflate their abilities.
There has been a lot of talk from a few posters on here that we will be lucky to get to 5-7 from all that we lost and with the coaching change. They keep pointing to Green and Redding (a lot of love for Big Ralph, especially). I'm not trying to knock them, but I think this goes to my point that we can replace them pretty easily. I really think Hoff alone is just as good as Green, if not better. I've said along, the only place we lose is the OL and it appears the NFL agrees with me.
I get the argument about the coaching change, although the impact is mitigated to some extent since the new HC was promoted from within and will continue to have his hands all over a greatly improved defense.There has been a lot of talk from a few posters on here that we will be lucky to get to 5-7 from all that we lost and with the coaching change. They keep pointing to Green and Redding (a lot of love for Big Ralph, especially). I'm not trying to knock them, but I think this goes to my point that we can replace them pretty easily. I really think Hoff alone is just as good as Green, if not better. I've said along, the only place we lose is the OL and it appears the NFL agrees with me.
I think fandom tends to overrate a lot of players sometimes. If you talk to Purdue fans, they think this guy or that guy should get shot because they've watched him for 4 years and they think he's really good. Ask a Wisconsin fan about that same guy and they'd say no way are they that good. We dominated them for 4 years.
It's like that every where you go. Fans know more about the player and they get a personal affection with them because they play for and represent their favorite school. They grow attached and because of that they tend to over-inflate their abilities. The common theme to a fandom post is player x can make a roster because he gives max effort and has a ton of heart. And player x probably does because he has pride in himself and his team, but that doesn't make him a pro prospect. It just means he gives good effort.
Green III, Redding, Paige, etc all lack a lot of key things that NFL pro personnel people look for. However these kids also excel in an area or two and fandom loves to latch on to that and run and post about it. But it's not shocking that any of these guys didn't get a call. They all worked out for teams privately or at all star events or even at the combine. Plenty of people saw there best and it simply wasn't good enough for a variety of reasons.
The one surprise to me is Redding. Not that I think he'll make a roster, I don't, but he was a combine invite and usually they get picked up by someone. But I think he'll be good enough for Canada if he wants to keep playing. But RGIII and Paige just had too many holes. They were good role players for IU, but that's about it.
I think fandom tends to overrate a lot of players sometimes. If you talk to Purdue fans, they think this guy or that guy should get shot because they've watched him for 4 years and they think he's really good. Ask a Wisconsin fan about that same guy and they'd say no way are they that good. We dominated them for 4 years.
It's like that every where you go. Fans know more about the player and they get a personal affection with them because they play for and represent their favorite school. They grow attached and because of that they tend to over-inflate their abilities. The common theme to a fandom post is player x can make a roster because he gives max effort and has a ton of heart. And player x probably does because he has pride in himself and his team, but that doesn't make him a pro prospect. It just means he gives good effort.
Green III, Redding, Paige, etc all lack a lot of key things that NFL pro personnel people look for. However these kids also excel in an area or two and fandom loves to latch on to that and run and post about it. But it's not shocking that any of these guys didn't get a call. They all worked out for teams privately or at all star events or even at the combine. Plenty of people saw there best and it simply wasn't good enough for a variety of reasons.
The one surprise to me is Redding. Not that I think he'll make a roster, I don't, but he was a combine invite and usually they get picked up by someone. But I think he'll be good enough for Canada if he wants to keep playing. But RGIII and Paige just had too many holes. They were good role players for IU, but that's about it.
This is kinda tragic...left school for a dream that turned into a nightmare. Who advised him to turn pro? Canada aint the NFL, but the pay is better than working a gas station. Does he have his degree? Hope so...make a world of difference. Can a player return on scholarship but no eligibility? Just wondering...Redding got a combine invite because of his back to back 1000 yard seasons. But his combine did not go well. He was had the 2nd slowest 40 time among RBs, and the guy behind him the next several in front of him were FB's that had 30lbs on him. Not sure if it was just a bad day or if he just really is that slow, but that's clearly what held him back from signing somewhere as a FA.
I get the argument about the coaching change, although the impact is mitigated to some extent since the new HC was promoted from within and will continue to have his hands all over a greatly improved defense.
I can't comprehend the "all that we lost" argument, though. Sure, we lost some important contributors, as every team did and does every year. But we lost far fewer than most. We're 13th nationally in overall returning production, with 79% of our production suiting up again in 2017. Defensively, we're first nationally with 96% returning defensive production, which projects to 5.4 fewer points given up per game. That's huge. Offensively, we're middle of the pack nationally - No. 67, with 63% returning offensive production. That translates to eight-tenths of an additional point per game. A healthy Patrick at RB, though, would suggest a much more significant gain.
Hey, we're all homers so it's tough to be objective. But these stats point to continuing improvement. If the OL jells and Lagow does a better job of keeping the ball out of the hands of the other team, this will be a 7+ win season.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...eturning-starters-experience-oregon-tcu-texas
He was slow at the combine, but he ran much better at IU's pro day. And that was in front of every team.Redding got a combine invite because of his back to back 1000 yard seasons. But his combine did not go well. He was had the 2nd slowest 40 time among RBs, and the guy behind him the next several in front of him were FB's that had 30lbs on him. Not sure if it was just a bad day or if he just really is that slow, but that's clearly what held him back from signing somewhere as a FA.
It's one guy, basically, who (and I'll be tactful here) isn't thinking clearly.That has been my argument all along, and the draft and free agent signings pretty much back us both up. Yet, some still want to try to spin things to try to make their point valid....smh.....
This is kinda tragic...left school for a dream that turned into a nightmare. Who advised him to turn pro? Canada aint the NFL, but the pay is better than working a gas station. Does he have his degree? Hope so...make a world of difference. Can a player return on scholarship but no eligibility? Just wondering...
This is kinda tragic...left school for a dream that turned into a nightmare. Who advised him to turn pro? Canada aint the NFL, but the pay is better than working a gas station. Does he have his degree? Hope so...make a world of difference. Can a player return on scholarship but no eligibility? Just wondering...
Our bill of rights guarantees that Redding or anyone who leaves early can come back and finish their degree for free.This is kinda tragic...left school for a dream that turned into a nightmare. Who advised him to turn pro? Canada aint the NFL, but the pay is better than working a gas station. Does he have his degree? Hope so...make a world of difference. Can a player return on scholarship but no eligibility? Just wondering...
Yeah, IU athletics always announces their winter and spring graduates. As long as he left in good standing, he can come back and finish his degree for free.Do we know for certain that Redding didn't graduate? RB's have a short shelf life so I can understand him wanting to leave after having the 2 back to back season of over 1000 yards. His value as a young early entrant was going to be better than coming back for another 1000 yards and being a year older.
Yeah, IU athletics always announces their winter and spring graduates. As long as he left in good standing, he can come back and finish his degree for free.