First they came . . . .

UncleMark

Hall of Famer
Sep 1, 2001
23,248
21,870
113
Here's an idea: be better. Try to actually post content. Do something more than just whatabouts and calling people idiots. See what happens.
A lot of us could do better. But you must admit, some have much higher content/crap ratios than others. Goat's is on the high side.
 

MyTeamIsOnTheFloor

Hall of Famer
Gold Member
Dec 5, 2001
48,210
22,115
113
Duckburg
We’re all just self-ordained professors, who fail to fear that we become our enemies in the instant that we preach.

Some of us - not many - stop re-spouting all the high and mighty idea-traps we spouted in college, when we believed life was black and white, and our perceived abstract threats were too noble to neglect, and we thought we had something we needed to protect, and thought we knew what was good and what was bad.

We should just admit we were just trying to get laid.

Some grew out of it. Others still have burned ears.
 

Bulk VanderHuge

All-American
Dec 20, 2017
8,377
9,652
113
The Southern Sun
We’re all just self-ordained professors, who fail to fear that we become our enemies in the instant that we preach.

Some of us - not many - stop re-spouting all the high and mighty idea-traps we spouted in college, when we believed life was black and white, and our perceived abstract threats were too noble to neglect, and we thought we had something we needed to protect, and thought we knew what was good and what was bad.

We should just admit we were just trying to get laid.

Some grew out of it. Others still have burned ears.
With all due respect, if a result of "growing out of 'it'" is posting pretentious preachy bullshit on a backwoods sports message board, count me out, old-timer.
With all due respect...
 

Bulk VanderHuge

All-American
Dec 20, 2017
8,377
9,652
113
The Southern Sun
Duh you're still IN college. COH U
Can't wait!

hvac-certification.png
 

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
With all due respect, if a result of "growing out of 'it'" is posting pretentious preachy bullshit on a backwoods sports message board, count me out, old-timer.
With all due respect...
You are proof that the loss of function mutation they are applying to our minds will work.
 

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
And you are proof of that old theory that when people lose one of their senses, others are enhanced. In your case, we see a lack of a sense of humor being compensated for by a heightened sense of self-importance.
Some of us feel the feels without help. But for you. . . .

AllTheFeels_Screen.jpg
 

IUCrazy2

Hall of Famer
Mar 7, 2004
14,084
5,275
113
It's just like the County Govt in NC who just announced they are banning (canceling) Coke product vending machines from all govt buildings. It was obviously a well-thought-out response (DWS) to Coke CEO James Quincey opposing the GA GOP bill and advocating for MORE inclusion in the voting process.

Strange how 5 Commissioners in a 3-2 vote decide to CANCEL a product headquartered in a neighboring state because they feel that somehow protesting against SUPPRESSING the vote in that state is an example of "cancel culture". Maybe they should look up the term "unintentional irony".

And I'm not sure exactly what they feel Quincey is "canceling", since the Legislators enacting this law are basically demonstrating a partisan attempt to regulate the voting procedures of a slight majority of citizens who voted against them, and they in NO WAY represent... I think Commissioner Harris (unintentionally) outs himself...

"In the letter to Quincey, Harris said the beverage company supports "the out-of-control cancel culture and bigoted leftist mob" when it chooses the social issues it wants to speak up about". He also refers to Coke as "favoring the Democrat party", which is a strange admission coming from someone accusing others of a Partisan bias.

I mean the people of GA ELECTED in STATEWIDE elections a Democrat for POTUS, as well as BOTH US Senators. None of the people in GA who drafted and supported this bill were elected statewide by ALL of the voters in GA, and NONE are Democrats. So exactly WHICH people of GA is this bill REPRESENTING, because it sure doesn't represent the majority of folks who just voted...


This is almost as ironic as CoH using the words of a man like Niemoller who was basically decrying the effects of xenophobic fascism and ultra Nationalism in defense of people who are so xenophobic that they hate outsiders. They are also big on using terminology to define people they hate when it's clear they really don't even know what that terminology actually means...

I mean the first group that Niemoller even mentions are "socialists". Is there anything a Trump cultist hates more than a socialist, even though they couldn't accurately define "socialism" if their life depended on it? You know uber-rich "socialists" like Soros, Gates, etc... Heck Soros ticks the box for #3 as well- a twofer...

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

And let's be honest, their hatred for "trade unionists" and Jews (except Israelis) isn't too far behind...

Why are Pubs NEVER in favor of INCLUSION, when it comes to involving people in the political (voting) process? Of course, that's a rhetorical (trick) question... ;)
You guys literally have one arrow in your quiver. One.
 

hoot1

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
15,814
2,420
113
Some of us feel the feels without help. But for you. . . .

AllTheFeels_Screen.jpg
Feelings as in emotions, IMO play a much bigger part in some of our political selections as a country than intellect.

Show me a politician who can appeal to our emotions and I'll show you a potential winner.

i say potential because party identification can eliminate even a candidate who can appeal to emotions in a gerrymandered district or all those one sided areas across the land.
 
  • Like
Reactions: IU_Hickory

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
Feelings as in emotions, IMO play a much bigger part in some of our political selections as a country than intellect.

Show me a politician who can appeal to our emotions and I'll show you a potential winner.

i say potential because party identification can eliminate even a candidate who can appeal to emotions in a gerrymandered district or all those one sided areas across the land.
Politics is now almost 100% emotion. There was a time when emotion was mostly aimed at the voters, now the pols, pundits, intellectuals, elites and others aim it everywhere and at each other. We are now blanketed with a constant flow of emotion from the Oval Office, to media, to coffee shops to our households. The only refuge is our individual minds and that is under assault as education is substituting the questioning so necessary for critical thinking with conformity and obedience.
 

Bulk VanderHuge

All-American
Dec 20, 2017
8,377
9,652
113
The Southern Sun
Politics is now almost 100% emotion. There was a time when emotion was mostly aimed at the voters, now the pols, pundits, intellectuals, elites and others aim it everywhere and at each other. We are now blanketed with a constant flow of emotion from the Oval Office, to media, to coffee shops to our households. The only refuge is our individual minds and that is under assault as education is substituting the questioning so necessary for critical thinking with conformity and obedience.
Two things:
Was Burr vs. Hamilton devoid of emotion?
Are you really saying that conformity in education is a new phenomenon?
 

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
This is almost as ironic as CoH using the words of a man like Niemoller who was basically decrying the effects of xenophobic fascism and ultra Nationalism in defense of people who are so xenophobic that they hate outsiders. They are also big on using terminology to define people they hate when it's clear they really don't even know what that terminology actually means...
No. Niemoller was not writing about ideology. He was writing about the evils of consolidating power and how that is successful when the citizens stand by and don’t take action. They don’t act because the consolidation happens incrementally and might not even be noticeable. This occurs across the political spectrum.

You had a lot of fun with the obscure NC county calling attention to Coke’s politics. Let’s go back to Neimoller’s time. When the industrial giant I.G. Farben threw in with the Nazi party, do you think it would have been appropriate for a German local yokel to call attention to that? Isn’t that exactly Neimoller’s point? Do you really think MLB scored points for tolerance and inclusion as it yanked the all star game from Atlanta after being egged on by the President of the United States?

You turning this discussion into an ideological one shows that you are one of those Neimoller was talking about.
 

mcmurtry66

Hall of Famer
Mar 14, 2019
10,808
8,603
113
No. Niemoller was not writing about ideology. He was writing about the evils of consolidating power and how that is successful when the citizens stand by and don’t take action. They don’t act because the consolidation happens incrementally and might not even be noticeable. This occurs across the political spectrum.

You had a lot of fun with the obscure NC county calling attention to Coke’s politics. Let’s go back to Neimoller’s time. When the industrial giant I.G. Farben threw in with the Nazi party, do you think it would have been appropriate for a German local yokel to call attention to that? Isn’t that exactly Neimoller’s point? Do you really think MLB scored points for tolerance and inclusion as it yanked the all star game from Atlanta after being egged on by the President of the United States?

You turning this discussion into an ideological one shows that you are one of those Neimoller was talking about.
I just read an article where Obama was commenting on the dangers of voting restrictions and said corporate America needs to stand up and get involved. Why? Why Corp America
 

larsIU

Senior
Gold Member
Apr 17, 2010
2,086
2,510
113
I just read an article where Obama was commenting on the dangers of voting restrictions and said corporate America needs to stand up and get involved. Why? Why Corp America
Because Obama is smart enough to know where the true power lies.

It’s not personal. It’s just business.
 
  • Like
Reactions: UncleMark

bawlmer

All-American
Gold Member
Dec 12, 2010
6,234
4,533
113
You had a lot of fun with the obscure NC county calling attention to Coke’s politics. Let’s go back to Neimoller’s time. When the industrial giant I.G. Farben threw in with the Nazi party, do you think it would have been appropriate for a German local yokel to call attention to that? Isn’t that exactly Neimoller’s point? Do you really think MLB scored points for tolerance and inclusion as it yanked the all star game from Atlanta after being egged on by the President of the United States?
Moving the All-Star game is equivalent to what, exactly, from Nazi Germany?
 
  • Like
Reactions: UncleMark

DANC

Hall of Famer
Gold Member
Dec 21, 2001
12,656
17,113
113
Hmmm. I’ll challenge that. They actually came for the land. The geography of America allowed for all of the things listed above. Didn’t need much government when your land was rich, ports good, rivers navigable, people scarce, and most of your scariest rivals were an ocean away. Our land allowed for this government. It can’t work everywhere. For examples, see everywhere. Lol.

And America trucks along with a government born into dysfunction. That was always the plan. The land is that good!
Were your oher 37 posts this out of touch with reality?
 

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
I just read an article where Obama was commenting on the dangers of voting restrictions and said corporate America needs to stand up and get involved. Why? Why Corp America
Obama is an ideological community organizer. He values consolidation of power and authority towards his views. A healthy society values the proliferation of and independent sources of power and authority. Unfortunately we are headed to Obama’s view. I think that is unsustainable.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DANC

bawlmer

All-American
Gold Member
Dec 12, 2010
6,234
4,533
113
I just read an article where Obama was commenting on the dangers of voting restrictions and said corporate America needs to stand up and get involved. Why? Why Corp America
Obama is astute enough to recognize that American corporations are currently trying to outdo each other to show they support social justice. Strike while the iron is hot.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TommyCracker

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
Some third-parties lost income opportunities that moved to other's elsewhere. No one's rights were sacrificed. I think the frog has safely escaped to live a happy life.
Taking Hank Aaron’s celebration from Atlanta is irreparable. But the larger point that MLB and the Oval Office act in concert diminishes all of us If only to a small degree.
 

mcmurtry66

Hall of Famer
Mar 14, 2019
10,808
8,603
113
Has there been an example of major social change in America that didn't involve people getting out of their lane?
The companies leading the charge have entire websites devoted to their international human rights’ violations. Hypocritical opportunism. I’d prefer they stay in their lane
 

CO. Hoosier

Hall of Famer
Aug 29, 2001
37,719
8,989
113
Has there been an example of major social change in America that didn't involve people getting out of their lane?
Fair point and It’s a matter of degree. The Coke ads of a decade or so ago about teaching the world to sing were great. They carried an important bipartisan social message. I think Coke taking a specific, and false, shot at the Georgia law is partisan and crosses a line that I think is dangerous.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DANC

bawlmer

All-American
Gold Member
Dec 12, 2010
6,234
4,533
113
The companies leading the charge have entire websites devoted to their international human rights’ violations. Hypocritical opportunism. I’d prefer they stay in their lane
Fair point and It’s a matter of degree. The Coke ads of a decade or so ago about teaching the world to sing were great. They carried an important bipartisan social message. I think Coke taking a specific, and false, shot at the Georgia law is partisan and crosses a line that I think is dangerous.
You're both pointing out the risks that multi-national companies with lots of competition are taking when they speak out politically. But it's a business risk, and I'm absolutely certain it's calculated.

Now, if a company like Coke were to receive legislative favoritism in exchange for political activism that would be problematic and perhaps dangerous. But personally I wouldn't care much more if Coke was contributing to preserve Stone Mountain. It's their choice, and I have lots of alternatives if I don't care to buy their product.