stollcpa, about them crocodile tears of yours... Watch the first 10 minutes of this video. Hard to do or fix anything when the Senate is being held hostage by a turtle.
Donald Trump Hates America
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stollcpa, about them crocodile tears of yours... Watch the first 10 minutes of this video. Hard to do or fix anything when the Senate is being held hostage by a turtle.
I fully admit Republicans have no compromises types on their side and they’re among the Republicans that voted against cloture on that bill. You won’t recognize you have some of the same types among the Democrats that voted the same way. I hear BS like they wanted a “better bill” as if their refusals to compromise are so much more noble. Republicans said the same too. You know if those noble Democrats had voted the other way there would have been over 60 votes for cloture and they could have proceeded to the up or down vote, right? That’s what they should have done, screw the no compromise Republicans - the Republican President would have signed the bill.
Of course the stubborn Republicans could have too, but the stubbornness on both sides are why President Bush never had a chance to sign the reform he favored.
Two thirds of the Dems voted in favor, two thirds of the Pubs voted against. So yeah, they're equally to blame.
I already agreed some of the opposition was on the left. But saying "the left and right" killed the bill is still misleading. A lot of the right and a little of the left teamed up to kill the bill. It was mostly the right, particularly Republicans.
Why do you keep insisting on this “equally to blame” thing? I at no point said it was equal.
Hell if I did. There’s a reason I rarely post here these days. It’s responses like I’ve gotten here. It’s tiresome as hell.
Defending Republicans is tough nowadays. I don't envy you. Most give up trying and slink away.
What's tiresome as hell is your refusal to just admit that yes, sometimes, once in a while, the Republicans are the bad guys. Comprehensive immigration reform, including the Dream Act, has been introduced into Congress about 100 bazillion times over the past twenty-some years. It's always the Republicans that find a way to kill it. But because you can find one year when a dozen Democrats also opposed it, you fall back on this "left and right" crap.
You claim that you never tried to impute equal responsibility on both sides, but you prove that's crap by criticizing me for pointing out that the responsibility was unequal while at the same time admitting that some liberals were part of the problem.
You're a pretty conservative guy, so I think it's safe to assume that, on most issues, it's the Democrats who are causing most of the problems. Which is fine. But sometimes, they aren't. On the issue of immigration reform, the Republicans are the biggest problem. That you can't admit that isn't fine; it's partisan hackery.
You should look in the mirror. You’re a perfect example of what you accuse me of. I’m serious.
And by the way, how many times do I have to disagree with Republicans these days before you stop claiming I defend them down the line? Tiresome as hell.
I didn't say you defend them down the line. And it has nothing to do with agreement or disagreement. It's about the fact that here is an issue where you do actually disagree with most of them, and you can't bring yourself to admit they are the ones primarily causing the problem.
I'd like you to back that up with examples, since your further post suggests you don't even understand what it is I'm criticizing you for.
The mods here are Cajun and NPT. This is a very busy board, and they can't be here 24/7. The best way to draw their attention to a particularly offensive post is to click on the little "Report" button on the bottom of it. I'm confident if you do that, you'll see the post dealt with in fairly short order.
So if I am a Trump supporter that makes me a troll? I bet you think the moon landing was real.
Thank you. I’ve had several posts deleted in the past week but understand they have a limited capacity to deal with all of us.
Are you saying that the moon landing was not real? Any evidence to that, besides what Rush says?
I am saying the moon landing was not real.Are you saying that the moon landing was not real? Any evidence to that, besides what Rush says?
You spend way to much time criticizing other posters. I never see the sense in that. Criticizing posters is never important and it never contributes to an interesting board.
Yeah, I know. . . .
I never tried to hide thatCongratulations! You really are what I thought you were!
In your view does criticizing politicians contribute to an interesting board?
If you are talking about criticizing political positions, or calling out idiocy, incompetence, or excessive partisanship, absolutely. This is a political discussion board.
