Chloroquine may not have been sound, but using bleach on humans is certainly a very bad idea.
Bleach and insert UV or powerful light into the body....
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Chloroquine may not have been sound, but using bleach on humans is certainly a very bad idea.
Your ignorance is boundless and endless. Congratulations. You’ve single handedly decided that HCQ specifically stops ALL interleukins (that usually affect joints) by misreading all literature. I commend you.
It attempts to suppress interleukins associated with inflammation. Not the lungs specifically, not cytokine storms. But you don’t care. You have your orders, dontcha chief? You instead grab unrelated snippets of articles that advance your taking points (because you cannot be wrong), and mix them together like a stew...except it’s all wrong.
You continue in bad faith to say HCQ “does what it can specifically for the lungs” which is completely false. You’re the dumbest smart guy on here. You won!
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/85934
edit: you’re consistent in your misreading of everything today. I never said we should be skeptical HCQ works because it’s an immunosuppressant - I said we should be skeptical of its safety profile given it’s immunosuppressant mechanisms. If immunosuppressants that target specific interleukins were always a good thing we’d take them prophylactically. They’re not so we don’t.
If I had to be publicly spanked...
If I had to be publicly spanked...
WTF marv? Since when have I said give HCQ to everybody? Or without consideration of patient history? I know enough about standards of care that you don't do that. You have this awful habit of making referense to my posts by saying what I never said. And you do that just so you can argue with me. You have done better. I would think your own self-respect would cause you to want to do better now.
Not exactly. As far as I know, hydroxy does not make COVID worse. It’s associated with arrhythmia. Arrhythmia is a comorbidity for COVID patients.
This is NOTHING to do wirhpatient history. You did not read the link. It appears COVID causes heart ailments. You could have passed a heart exam with flying colors 2 weeks ago and have a serious heart ailment today because of COVID.
//ironyI would think your own self-respect would cause you to want to do better now.
If you are referring to the VA "study," it doesn't say that. The VA was not a study anyway, it was observational data.
The questions you are asking of me about this aren't relevant. I'm not suggesting people self-medicate. It doesn't take much time on the internet to see that hundreds of doctors are using it for COVID. I really don't know why we even have these threads about HCQ except that Trump "touted" it. That tells me that you see a political dimension here that I don't.
This is not only insane, but reveals his total lack of understanding about how the human body & medicine works.You have to remember this is the guy that doesn't believe in exercise, since the body only has a finite amount of energy to expend over ones lifetime.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/politics/donald-trump-exercise/index.html
And people are worried that Biden may have lost a step? Lol
And people are worried that Biden may have lost a step? Lol
Forget cleaners. How did he not think of injecting UV light? Or even realizing that was a thing that was physically possible?Obviously Biden has lost a step, he did not think to suggest injecting cleaners into the lungs. Anyone up on modern science would have been suggesting this already.
How about doing a tracheotomy and shining some UV light down there? Maybe even mist a little alcohol in there for good measure. Shouldn't take more than a couple minutes to clear things up if the DHS guy wasn't bullshitting.Forget cleaners. How did he not think of injecting UV light? Or even realizing that was a thing that was physically possible?
Forget cleaners. How did he not think of injecting UV light? Or even realizing that was a thing that was physically possible?
You obviously attacked my post without reading the link as it is not the VA study. I have couched it repeatedly though, it is not definitive. It is something to consider. Here is the link
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/heart-damage-in-covid-19-patients-puzzles-doctors/
Did anyone see My Big Fat Greek Wedding? Windex was used for everything. Maybe he saw that.
Did anyone see My Big Fat Greek Wedding? Windex was used for everything. Maybe he saw that.
Forget cleaners. How did he not think of injecting UV light? Or even realizing that was a thing that was physically possible?
I dunno. How would you expect anybody to respond to this article? It really adds nothing. How many different ways do I need to say that prescribing HCQ is patient specific after assessment by the treating physician before you will understand? Patient assessment will include heart function.
Will tell you one thing, this new daily soap show called The Daily Briefing@ the WH we have going on is immensely entertaining -- almost feels like its Days of our Lives-esque.
I wonder if Melania will come storming into the Press conference with some dramatic news, "I'm Pregnant! And it's not your's, Dhunald... it's...it's.....STEVE'S" dum dun dummmmm.
People shop for doctors who will give them what they want. That is why we have an antibiotic crisis, that is why we have an opioid crisis. That is why using the bully pulpit to tout hydroxychloroquine was wrong. We do not want patients demanding the drug. We want patients who accept what their doctor tells them, not what the president tells them. Your stance for three years is that Trump's crazy statements are just minor annoyances that are only a problem to people with TDS. Here is the best example why Ford shows a person deriving a car up an active volcano and sticks on the "do not try this at home" disclaimer.
Ha. After I saw that movie, I tried Windex to clean my bicycle chains. It actually worked.
People shop for doctors who will give them what they want. That is why we have an antibiotic crisis, that is why we have an opioid crisis. That is why using the bully pulpit to tout hydroxychloroquine was wrong. We do not want patients demanding the drug. We want patients who accept what their doctor tells them, not what the president tells them. Your stance for three years is that Trump's crazy statements are just minor annoyances that are only a problem to people with TDS. Here is the best example why Ford shows a person deriving a car up an active volcano and sticks on the "do not try this at home" disclaimer.
Wrong portal?I check Amazon, there is a mini travel UV disinfecting wand for use in hotel rooms. It was the smallest I could find, and I don't know anyone could swallow it.
I can’t imagine seeing anything funnier than that for several more days.
Lighten up, Francis. It’s called brainstorming. Or in trumps case, storming.
Trump: “Most people drink tapwater. You know, tapwater. Tapwater is made from fresh water. We’re going to investigate drinking salt water instead. Most bodies don’t have any salt water in them. Very little salt. Salt’s a great thing. It’s the greatest thing. If people just drink some salt water, they would cure themselves of cancer, osteoporosis, COPD, coronavirus, multiple sclerosis, arterial sclerosis, everything. People need to drink more salt water.”
That is amazing. Poor lady.I think Dr Brix had the same reaction....You can feel the very moment the soul leaving her body.
blink..blink..blink..blink..blink..blink....
People shop for doctors who will give them what they want. That is why we have an antibiotic crisis, that is why we have an opioid crisis. That is why using the bully pulpit to tout hydroxychloroquine was wrong. We do not want patients demanding the drug. We want patients who accept what their doctor tells them, not what the president tells them. Your stance for three years is that Trump's crazy statements are just minor annoyances that are only a problem to people with TDS. Here is the best example why Ford shows a person deriving a car up an active volcano and sticks on the "do not try this at home" disclaimer.
I can’t imagine seeing anything funnier than that for several more days.
Ah the latest thrust in the War on Hydroxychloroquine - the false flag defense.