Darian DeVries Thoughts

[IUNorth]

It seems like he's a guy that's largely flown under the radar. But there seems to be some smoke on him being the guy...so lets discuss him.

I think he's probably a solid choice, but there are a few concerns I'd have with him.

1. How much of his recent success was attributed to his son? They seemed to fall off a fair bit when Tucker got hurt this year. That isn't abnormal, he's really good, and most college programs fall off when their best player goes down...but if you take his last 3 years at Drake away, he doesn't have a lot to go off of.

2. He never won the Valley regular season championship. He won 20+ games every year, and fielded really good Valley level teams, but he never won the league.

3. Mixed results in post season tournaments. On one hand, he won some Valley tournaments, which is good. But then, he hasn't won any NCAA tournament games. The success in the Valley tournaments is probably a good sign with respect to IU...as it shows he's able to get them playing well, and beating, peer opponents, in March. IU's peer opponents, hopefully, will be top 15-20 level teams every year. So if he can beat his peers at IU, probably will mean some NCAA success on top of B10 success.

I'd MUCH rather have McCollum than DeVries. I'd much rather have guys like McCasland, Beard, May...obviously some of the whales. But I think I'd rather have DeVries than Brownell types. But that is more of a "feeling" than anything else. I haven't committed really any time studying his philosophies, offenses, defenses, etc... Has anyone on here?

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

It seems like he's a guy that's largely flown under the radar. But there seems to be some smoke on him being the guy...so lets discuss him.

I think he's probably a solid choice, but there are a few concerns I'd have with him.

1. How much of his recent success was attributed to his son? They seemed to fall off a fair bit when Tucker got hurt this year. That isn't abnormal, he's really good, and most college programs fall off when their best player goes down...but if you take his last 3 years at Drake away, he doesn't have a lot to go off of.

2. He never won the Valley regular season championship. He won 20+ games every year, and fielded really good Valley level teams, but he never won the league.

3. Mixed results in post season tournaments. On one hand, he won some Valley tournaments, which is good. But then, he hasn't won any NCAA tournament games. The success in the Valley tournaments is probably a good sign with respect to IU...as it shows he's able to get them playing well, and beating, peer opponents, in March. IU's peer opponents, hopefully, will be top 15-20 level teams every year. So if he can beat his peers at IU, probably will mean some NCAA success on top of B10 success.

I'd MUCH rather have McCollum than DeVries. I'd much rather have guys like McCasland, Beard, May...obviously some of the whales. But I think I'd rather have DeVries than Brownell types. But that is more of a "feeling" than anything else. I haven't committed really any time studying his philosophies, offenses, defenses, etc... Has anyone on here?

Does he have another kid?

 

[UTFO]

Does well at Drake in a small conference, loses 13 games his first year at W Va...and lands the Indiana job?

 

[IUNorth]

Does well at Drake in a small conference, loses 13 games his first year at W Va...and lands the Indiana job?

To be fair...he was on track to lose less games than that/win more games than he did, before his best player went down with a season ending injury.

But for sure, its a concern.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

Does well at Drake in a small conference, loses 13 games his first year at W Va...and lands the Indiana job?

Doesn't really fit Dolson's MO. But Dolson is probably also looking at process along with results and if he feels like the process/person translate to more success at Indiana, then he'll like the guy. In general.

That said, I don't think it's Devries.

I'll add that, IF this is a done deal and there's an announcement this week, then it's not Devries because he was definitely (not rumored) to be in Iowa City Monday. If he had agreed to something with us with an imminent announcement ahead, he's done shopping.

 

[IUNorth]

Doesn't really fit Dolson's MO. But Dolson is probably also looking at process along with results and if he feels like the process/person translate to more success at Indiana, then he'll like the guy. In general.

That said, I don't think it's Devries.

It would surprise me too... just felt like discussing him since there's some smoke in the last 24 hours on him.

And if all the smoke in the last 24 hours around someone being hired already, is accurate...he's one of the viable fellas that's not preparing for the NCAA tournament right now.

 

[UTFO]

That said, I don't think it's Devries.

No but I'd take him over Brownell. Devries' potential is unknown, whereas Brownell's ceiling and floor is well established - sorta blah.

 

[ufo33]

Absolutely NO on Brownell
No on Devries (still better options)
Huge yes on McCollum best choice if IU doesn’t land Brad, Beard, Pearl, Drew, Pitino, Jay Wright.
I’ve heard Tony Bennett rumblings, would he come back to college coaching?

 

[mushroomgod_1]

It seems like he's a guy that's largely flown under the radar. But there seems to be some smoke on him being the guy...so lets discuss him.

I think he's probably a solid choice, but there are a few concerns I'd have with him.

1. How much of his recent success was attributed to his son? They seemed to fall off a fair bit when Tucker got hurt this year. That isn't abnormal, he's really good, and most college programs fall off when their best player goes down...but if you take his last 3 years at Drake away, he doesn't have a lot to go off of.

2. He never won the Valley regular season championship. He won 20+ games every year, and fielded really good Valley level teams, but he never won the league.

3. Mixed results in post season tournaments. On one hand, he won some Valley tournaments, which is good. But then, he hasn't won any NCAA tournament games. The success in the Valley tournaments is probably a good sign with respect to IU...as it shows he's able to get them playing well, and beating, peer opponents, in March. IU's peer opponents, hopefully, will be top 15-20 level teams every year. So if he can beat his peers at IU, probably will mean some NCAA success on top of B10 success.

I'd MUCH rather have McCollum than DeVries. I'd much rather have guys like McCasland, Beard, May...obviously some of the whales. But I think I'd rather have DeVries than Brownell types. But that is more of a "feeling" than anything else. I haven't committed really any time studying his philosophies, offenses, defenses, etc... Has anyone on here?

Also..............McCollum has lost 3 games all year with a totally new line-up while DeVries lost 6 & 7 the last two years at Drake with the best player in the league who was also his son.

 

[bailey777]

It seems like he's a guy that's largely flown under the radar. But there seems to be some smoke on him being the guy...so lets discuss him.

I think he's probably a solid choice, but there are a few concerns I'd have with him.

1. How much of his recent success was attributed to his son? They seemed to fall off a fair bit when Tucker got hurt this year. That isn't abnormal, he's really good, and most college programs fall off when their best player goes down...but if you take his last 3 years at Drake away, he doesn't have a lot to go off of.

2. He never won the Valley regular season championship. He won 20+ games every year, and fielded really good Valley level teams, but he never won the league.

3. Mixed results in post season tournaments. On one hand, he won some Valley tournaments, which is good. But then, he hasn't won any NCAA tournament games. The success in the Valley tournaments is probably a good sign with respect to IU...as it shows he's able to get them playing well, and beating, peer opponents, in March. IU's peer opponents, hopefully, will be top 15-20 level teams every year. So if he can beat his peers at IU, probably will mean some NCAA success on top of B10 success.

I'd MUCH rather have McCollum than DeVries. I'd much rather have guys like McCasland, Beard, May...obviously some of the whales. But I think I'd rather have DeVries than Brownell types. But that is more of a "feeling" than anything else. I haven't committed really any time studying his philosophies, offenses, defenses, etc... Has anyone on here?

I don't know anything about him honestly his record was 19-13 this year. Not that impressive but the big 12 is tough.

 

[mushroomgod_1]

Also..............McCollum has lost 3 games all year with a totally new line-up while DeVries lost 6 & 7 the last two years at Drake with the best player in the league who was also his son.

One big benefit of a McCollum hire would be getting Bennett Stirtz (presumably). I've never seen he or Tucker Devries play, but just looking at the #s. Stirtz' are better. .386 on 3s, .551 on 2s, .795 on FTs, 5.7 assists per every 40M played v. 2.0 TOs.....

 

[mushroomgod_1]

It would surprise me too... just felt like discussing him since there's some smoke in the last 24 hours on him.

And if all the smoke in the last 24 hours around someone being hired already, is accurate...he's one of the viable fellas that's not preparing for the NCAA tournament right now.

I guess one argument for Devries is that he is more personable than BM, but if you watch that DD interview of Ben M......I didn't detect any Archie Miller-like awkwardness. In fact, he was very impressive.

Another argument for DeVries is that, being more of a traditional coach than BM, he might be more comfortable with the portal than Ben. My take on that is that there would be plenty of talented transfers that would fit Ben's criteria that would be interested in coming to Indiana....not as much to Drake.

 

[bailey777]

Had to check out Btown banners just now. They have convinced themselves its either Stevens or another big name. I guess just awaiting Stevens daughter to vote. LOL!!!!!!!

 

[ANOTHERBANNERYEAR]

I guess one argument for Devries is that he is more personable than BM, but if you watch that DD interview of Ben M......I didn't detect any Archie Miller-like awkwardness. In fact, he was very impressive.

Another argument for DeVries is that, being more of a traditional coach than BM, he might be more comfortable with the portal than Ben. My take on that is that there would be plenty of talented transfers that would fit Ben's criteria that would be interested in coming to Indiana....not as much to Drake.

Not sure saying BM is less personable and a less traditional coach would be accurate

 

[GThomas]

I have no thoughts about DeVries because it's not him. Next?

 

[bailey777]

I have no thoughts about DeVries because it's not him. Next?

I kind of hope it is not. 19-13 is not all that impressive even though the big twelve was tough. Plus he never won the conference at Drake.

 

[GThomas]

I kind of hope it is not. 19-13 is not all that impressive even though the big twelve was tough. Plus he never won the conference at Drake.

Dakich said "the street is talking," so I'm sure it's DeVries. 🙄

 

[bailey777]

Dakich said "the street is talking," so I'm sure it's DeVries. 🙄

LOL yeah dolson is leaking to everyone if the street is talking. Not happening.

 

[kraft cheese+macaroni]

Dakich said "the street is talking," so I'm sure it's DeVries. 🙄

DeVries was in IC yesterday. If there's an announcement today/today, it's not him

 

[GThomas]

LOL yeah dolson is leaking to everyone if the street is talking. Not happening.

Nope. Neither is Brownell. People should rely on logic and intellect, not tweets. Twitter is a cesspool.

 

[GThomas]

DeVries was in IC yesterday. If there's an announcement today/today, it's not him

It's not him no matter when the announcement is.

 

[asindc]

My armchair view is that DeVries wants the Iowa job and his agent is generating buzz about IU’s possible interest to put pressure on Iowa.

 

[Pryght]

I guess one argument for Devries is that he is more personable than BM, but if you watch that DD interview of Ben M......I didn't detect any Archie Miller-like awkwardness. In fact, he was very impressive.

Another argument for DeVries is that, being more of a traditional coach than BM, he might be more comfortable with the portal than Ben. My take on that is that there would be plenty of talented transfers that would fit Ben's criteria that would be interested in coming to Indiana....not as much to Drake.

Both are personable. DeVries looks uncomfortable in front of the media (may explain why he spent over 15 years as a Creighton assistant), McCollum comes off more confident. Yesterday, Dakich referred to McCollum as a young Brad Stevens (not that much of an age gap)...

 

[IUgradman]

That would be a meh hire. Very fitting for IU.

 

[GThomas]

I find it quite humorous people are still falling for Goodman's nonsense. DeVries "COULD wind up being the guy." No shit ... anyone COULD wind up being the guy.

Yeah, Goodman is certainly keyed in to this search. By my count, this is the fifth coach he's tabbed as "the guy."

 

[medred]

My armchair view is that DeVries wants the Iowa job and his agent is generating buzz about IU’s possible interest to put pressure on Iowa.

You really don't think an agent would do that, do you?

 

[IUNorth]

I find it quite humorous people are still falling for Goodman's nonsense. DeVries "COULD wind up being the guy." No shit ... anyone COULD wind up being the guy.

Yeah, Goodman is certainly keyed in to this search. By my count, this is the fifth coach he's tabbed as "the guy."

Nothing wrong with linking these tweets and stuff. If nothing else, it'll further solidify that we shouldn't ever take anything like this, that Goodman says or tweets, seriously.

But from the various cryptic reports from the last few days about a deal being done...DeVries is one of the guys not currently coaching, that could give that information some legitimacy.

 

[bailey777]

It's not him no matter when the announcement is.

According to this guy its him

 

[IUNorth]

You really don't think an agent would do that, do you?

Ha ha... that's probably within the first two chapters of the "Sports Agenting: 101" textbook.

 

[bailey777]

Given the amount of time Dolson has had to find a new coach DD would be a i could not get anyone to take the job type of hire. I am not sold at all on McCullum but DD is such a meh settle hire.

 

[IUNorth]

According to this guy its him

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A guy that I know...that is involved with an NIL collective company that works with various colleges, including Purdue...just told me he's hearing its DeVries. I usually get more Purdue info from him than anything, because of his connections. And he's been wrong before on some things. So take it for what its worth.

Just another bit of info to add to the pile. We'll all find out soon enough I guess.

 

[IUgradman]

So Dolson fired a coach with two NCAA tournament wins for one with zero. Smart, very smart.

 

[UTFO]

A guy that I know...that is involved with an NIL collective company that works with various colleges, including Purdue...just told me he's hearing its DeVries. I usually get more Purdue info from him than anything, because of his connections. And he's been wrong before on some things. So take it for what its worth.

Just another bit of info to add to the pile. We'll all find out soon enough I guess.

all these dudes are reading the same 1 or 2 posts, i bet.

 

[IUNorth]

all these dudes are reading the same 1 or 2 posts, i bet.

Very possible. I actually said that to him, and he laughed and said probably, with a shrug emoji.

 

[bailey777]

Seems like a crean type hire but if doldon is the genius he is made out to be I guess we are headed for big things.

 

[IUNorth]

Seems like a crean type hire but if doldon is the genius he is made out to be I guess we are headed for big things.

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Hoping that my buddy is just hearing from similar smoke screen type sources. DeVries to Iowa would make A LOT more sense, to me.

 

[bailey777]

Hoping that my buddy is just hearing from similar smoke screen type sources. DeVries to Iowa would make A LOT more sense, to me.

But I remember reading Dolson wants someone who knows how to navigate the portal and can do so right away. He brought in eight portal guys last year and McCullum really has no experience with the portal. I am really thinking this is who it is going to be.

 

[IUNorth]

But I remember reading Dolson wants someone who knows how to navigate the portal and can do so right away. He brought in eight portal guys last year and McCullum really has no experience with the portal. I am really thinking this is who it is going to be.

McCollum had 1-2 players waiting for him at Drake this year, I believe. He brought in 10 new players, and used the portal for many of them.

 

[RowdyHoosier]

I don't know that much about DeVries, but McCollum seems to have a little more swagger, possibly. I think we need someone who can "wow" people to IU, possibly convince Mullins to change his mind on UConn. I don't put a whole lot into rumors but when they start firing off from all directions.......

 

[INwheels]

But I remember reading Dolson wants someone who knows how to navigate the portal and can do so right away. He brought in eight portal guys last year and McCullum really has no experience with the portal. I am really thinking this is who it is going to be.

I'll be extremely dissapointed if it's DeVries, and I'm sure I'm not alone here.