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Dane Fife not returning

That's your opinion and doesn't fit with my experience at all. All of my IU friends thought Woodson was a good hire and were happy to give him a chance at getting it done at IU. We never saw Woodson play at IU because my group of friends and I graduated in 2002 thru 2004. 2003 for me.

You don't equal most. You are just one of some that thought Woodson was a bad hire. We get that you didn't like it but you don't have to bitch about it all the time.
How many of your IU friends said they’d love to have Mike Woodson BEFORE he was hired? Anything more than zero is fiction.
 
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Rabjohns would be a great weatherman if you only cared about what happened yesterday.
I cannot belive the guy makes a living wage doing what he does. There must be alot of people paying for his outdated information.
 
Firing an insubordinate doesn’t undercut anything. He wasn’t doing his job well to begin with and became a pain in the ass. Don’t make this harder than it needs to be.
You are clearly part the problem. If I may, are you an IU Bloomington alum? I’m just curious.
 
I cannot belive the guy makes a living wage doing what he does. There must be alot of people paying for his outdated information.
I’m convinced he just sits at home and searches Twitter all day and soaks in the praise. Then when news comes out it’s always “As expected…”
 
You are clearly part the problem. If I may, are you an IU Bloomington alum? I’m just curious.

Lol.

I’m part of the problem for not blindly believing that firing Fife is bad optics? Especially considering what has come out?

And yes I graduated from IU, that’s why I post here. Not sure why a Purdue guy like yourself is here chiming in? You’re the last person who needs to be taken seriously.

Now run along.
 
Things I broke on here for free before Rabjohns:
Crean being fired
Archie hired
Woodson and Thad hired.

Admittedly I heard Thad as an assistant.

The Archie one was the worst. A trustee and multiple players were leaking it everywhere and Peegs and Rabby knew nothing. Told everyone it would be Monday at earliest when everyone knew Friday night.
 
I alway heard no wonder nobody wants to coach here becasue our fans our crazy. Well that has just been proven with the all out assault on a former player. Woodson better win becasue nobody is going to be lining up to come here especially former players.
Fired after one year from his alma mater, after being brought in by the AD? A guy would almost have to be trying to f-up for that to happen. Either a lot of what we're hearing about Fife is true, or Woodson is kind of crazy. Not surprising (and certainly not crazy) for IU fans to rally behind the HC.
 
Lol.

I’m part of the problem for not blindly believing that firing Fife is bad optics? Especially considering what has come out?

And yes I graduated from IU, that’s why I post here. Not sure why a Purdue guy like yourself is here chiming in? You’re the last person who needs to be taken seriously.

Now run along.
Do you know Fife’s history with Purdue?
 
Fired after one year from his alma mater, after being brought in by the AD? A guy would almost have to be trying to f-up for that to happen. Either a lot of what we're hearing about Fife is true, or Woodson is kind of crazy. Not surprising (and certainly not crazy) for IU fans to rally behind the HC.

Yep, one of them is likely crazy, but just based solely on personalities/demeanor (and nothing to do with rumors), odds are that Fife is the crazy one
 
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Do you know Fife’s history with Purdue?

I do.

Painter foolishly allowed Fife to sit in on team meetings before ever offering him a formal position on staff and Fife withdrew his name from consideration and accepted a better offer from a better program to learn under a better coach.

Not sure what this has to do with Woodson’s and Fife’s recent transgressions as an IU assistant.
 
I do. Have heard from multiple reliable sources.

Write down your thoughts and circle back to them in 2-3 years when Woodson is let go. Your "sources" will magically change their stories. It will be Woodson's fault and they'll have new "inside stories" about how Woodson was difficult to work and etc.
 
Fired after one year from his alma mater, after being brought in by the AD? A guy would almost have to be trying to f-up for that to happen. Either a lot of what we're hearing about Fife is true, or Woodson is kind of crazy. Not surprising (and certainly not crazy) for IU fans to rally behind the HC.
I don't see why everyone is making such a big deal of this. They obviously didn't get along or had some sort of conflict. Once that's there, why would you keep someone on your staff? It sucks, but it should be a bigger deal if he was kept on after folks hearing that they didn't get along and were having problems. An AD hiring an assistant coach without the HC's support is crazy and should never happen.

And I don't think it's rallying behind the HC, it's rallying behind our program and whoever is still here. That's CMW.
 
Write down your thoughts and circle back to them in 2-3 years when Woodson is let go. Your "sources" will magically change their stories. It will be Woodson's fault and they'll have new "inside stories" about how Woodson was difficult to work and etc.
Yeah. As much as I think Archie was a disaster for IU, he got this exact treatment just over a year ago, too.

And while deserved, you have to be willfully blind to not see the pattern. Unless Woodson wins - and I mean *wins* - they’ll eventually come for him, too.
 
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Yeah. As much as I think Archie was a disaster for IU, he got this exact treatment just over a year ago, too.

And while deserved, you have to be willfully blind to not see the pattern. Unless Woodson wins - and I mean *wins* - they’ll eventually come for him, too.

It took about 24 hours for Dane Fife to turn into a right wing lunatic, who hates recruiting, is disloyal, and a pain in the ass to work with 🙄 #lovehoosierfans😂
 
Yeah. As much as I think Archie was a disaster for IU, he got this exact treatment just over a year ago, too.

And while deserved, you have to be willfully blind to not see the pattern. Unless Woodson wins - and I mean *wins* - they’ll eventually come for him, too.
Even the most ardent supporter will turn once the blood is in the water and the end is inevitable. Often it’s the apologists that really get nasty once it’s over.

It’s fascinating to watch people turn on Dane, but it’s oh so predictable.
 
Even the most ardent supporter will turn once the blood is in the water and the end is inevitable. Often it’s the apologists that really get nasty once it’s over.

It’s fascinating to watch people turn on Dane, but it’s oh so predictable.
It's amazing to me how many fans care about the narrative of IU basketball versus just discussing and analyzing what's happening.
 
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It's amazing to me how many fans care about the narrative of IU basketball versus just discussing and analyzing what's happening.
What actually is happening??

Sounds like an assistant was fired for not doing his job and undermining the head coach. Not sure there's anything to turn on. Sounds like a problem that was addressed.
 
Even the most ardent supporter will turn once the blood is in the water and the end is inevitable. Often it’s the apologists that really get nasty once it’s over.

It’s fascinating to watch people turn on Dane, but it’s oh so predictable.
Agreed. People will believe anything. Do we have proof Fife was spewing conspiratorial nonsense to the players? No. Is it possible he did? Sure. Same goes for Fife leaking information to Rabjohns, Dakich, etc. However, until there's concrete proof of any of those things, I will be skeptical.
 
It's amazing to me how many fans care about the narrative of IU basketball versus just discussing and analyzing what's happening.

It's a pretty simple scenario: a HC and an assistant didn't get along, and the assistant was let go which is what the HC should do in that situation and the specifics details of dissatisfaction are mostly irrelevant. The only debate is whether or not IU/Woodson handled it "properly" and that's only because the assistant was a prominently liked former player.
 
It's a pretty simple scenario: a HC and an assistant didn't get along, and the assistant was let go which is what the HC should do in that situation and the specifics details of dissatisfaction are mostly irrelevant. The only debate is whether or not IU/Woodson handled it "properly" and that's only because the assistant was a prominently liked former player.
Some of these guys are so fatalistic, as if every fan is trashing Fife. Few are, but people are discussing what Rabhons put out there. This is a basketball message board.

Funny thing is many of those defending Fife are the first to throw Woody under the bus.

At the end of the day it is Woodson's call. He obviously felt a change was needed.
 
I think I remember reading Bob Knight once said his favorite song was Frank Sinatra's "My Way". I wouldn't be surprised if the song is played at his public viewing as he lays in state at center court in Assembly Hall some day (relatively) soon. ("Some day soon, goin' with him, someday soon." - Judy Collins, Who Knows Where The Time Goes album)

Yes, there were times
I'm sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew
But through it all when there was doubt
I ate it up and spit it out
I faced it all
And I stood tall
And did it my way


My way or the highway, it's been said repeatedly.
1) Knight is a narcissist
2) Peegs is a dork

.... I forgot where I was going with this.
 
How many of your IU friends said they’d love to have Mike Woodson BEFORE he was hired? Anything more than zero is fiction.
That means nothing. All of us had our favorite choices before he was hired. Once he was named we were all good with it. We didn't seem him play but we all know how to Google and watch YouTube. You old guys might have some trouble with that. If Woodson isn't working out in his third year some of us will be grumbling because that's what fans do.
 
Some of these guys are so fatalistic, as if every fan is trashing Fife. Few are, but people are discussing what Rabhons put out there. This is a basketball message board.

Funny thing is many of those defending Fife are the first to throw Woody under the bus.

At the end of the day it is Woodson's call. He obviously felt a change was needed.

Hell, Woodson could be heavily at fault for the falling out, but that's not necessarily some huge red flag or character flaw. His job isn't to make it work with every possible assistant, its to find the assistants that work well with him to give his vision the best opportunity for success.
 
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Wow what a thread. So let me get this straight. Many of the endlessly negative posters on here who just a few weeks ago believed rumors that Woodson ignored all his assistants from a couple sources now are sceptical all the sudden when just as many (or more) sources are saying Fife has a laundry list of infractions that would get you fired anywhere.

Hmmm seems inconsistent at best or dare I say racist at worst.

No matter what you believe, we heard straight from Woodson’s release that they were not on the same page. Trust in Woodson, our head coach. Go IU!
 
Hell, Woodson could be heavily at fault for the falling out, but that's not necessarily some huge red flag or character flaw. His job isn't to make it work with every possible assistant, its to find the assistants that work well with him to give his vision the best opportunity for success.
Spot on. At least in the office I work, if my boss and I don't see things eye to eye, I'm pretty sure I know who is leaving. Me.
 
Things I broke on here for free before Rabjohns:
Crean being fired
Archie hired
Woodson and Thad hired.

Admittedly I heard Thad as an assistant.

The Archie one was the worst. A trustee and multiple players were leaking it everywhere and Peegs and Rabby knew nothing. Told everyone it would be Monday at earliest when everyone knew Friday night.
You’re still trying to blow smoke up our skirts! The morning Woodson was hired you broke the scoop that it was Beilein with Fife as his assistant. You said Woodson later and you weren’t the first on the basketball boards to do it. Funniest thing was when you started deleting your Beilein scoop posts. You’re a fraud. Sorry, but true.
 
Things I broke on here for free before Rabjohns:
Crean being fired
Archie hired
Woodson and Thad hired.

Admittedly I heard Thad as an assistant.

The Archie one was the worst. A trustee and multiple players were leaking it everywhere and Peegs and Rabby knew nothing. Told everyone it would be Monday at earliest when everyone knew Friday night.
Don't forget about Billy Gillespie coming and being in Btown looking at real estate... or, did you just mean the things that really happened?
 
I’m convinced he just sits at home and searches Twitter all day and soaks in the praise. Then when news comes out it’s always “As expected…”
I would not be shocked at all. I man you gotta give him credit he is making a living off of this by simply repeating information and the gullable folks pay him for it.
 
Hell, Woodson could be heavily at fault for the falling out, but that's not necessarily some huge red flag or character flaw. His job isn't to make it work with every possible assistant, its to find the assistants that work well with him to give his vision the best opportunity for success.
We will never know the true story only the current narrative being pushed. At the end of the day Fife is the one being blasted and Woodson being held up as the guy who was wronged.
 
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He was fired 7 days after the season ended. That was his option, resign or be fired 7 days after the season ended.

At bare minimum, he should have been given through the Final Four weekend.
Again I ask, how do you know that was his option? He might've been told 3 months ago that he wasn't going to be retained after the season and that he could stay and start looking...etc. You are making baseless claims with absolutely no idea whether or not you are saying something factual or not. Get real.
 
I know how hated he is on this board but he does have a point about ther hotel incident. Never a peep about that.

Dan Dakich

@dandakich

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1h

All these guys suddenly with made up exaggerated info on Fife courtesy on #iubb office…why no “inside” info on the hotel incidents at Northwestern

dandakich

Which #iubb "insider" will be contacted by Woody and staff to put out a smear on Dane? Peegs was 1st ..who's next?

Soumnd like Rabby was the one who got the info and marching orders first to start going after Fife if Dakich it so be believed.
 
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You are making baseless claims with absolutely no idea whether or not you are saying something factual or not.
Of course he is. He's a purdue fan who does nothing but troll this site. I don't understand how he hasn't been banned.
 
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He was fired 7 days after the season ended. That was his option, resign or be fired 7 days after the season ended.

At bare minimum, he should have been given through the Final Four weekend.
Dumb again.

Coaches need to be interviewing now.
 
I know how hated he is on this board but he does have a point about ther hotel incident. Never a peep about that.

Dan Dakich
@dandakich

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1h

All these guys suddenly with made up exaggerated info on Fife courtesy on #iubb office…why no “inside” info on the hotel incidents at Northwestern

dandakich

Which #iubb "insider" will be contacted by Woody and staff to put out a smear on Dane? Peegs was 1st ..who's next?

Soumnd like Rabby was the one who got the info and marching orders first to start going after Fife if Dakich it so be believed.
What about the hotel incident?
 
Again I ask, how do you know that was his option? He might've been told 3 months ago that he wasn't going to be retained after the season and that he could stay and start looking...etc. You are making baseless claims with absolutely no idea whether or not you are saying something factual or not. Get real.
Looking for a job during the season? That’s your hypothesis? Wow, okay.
 
I know how hated he is on this board but he does have a point about ther hotel incident. Never a peep about that.

Dan Dakich

@dandakich

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1h

All these guys suddenly with made up exaggerated info on Fife courtesy on #iubb office…why no “inside” info on the hotel incidents at Northwestern

dandakich

Which #iubb "insider" will be contacted by Woody and staff to put out a smear on Dane? Peegs was 1st ..who's next?

Soumnd like Rabby was the one who got the info and marching orders first to start going after Fife if Dakich it so be believed.
You can't be this dense. Name me a program (or company for that matter) that airs their dirty laundry willingly. The punishment at Northwestern was handled in-house end of story.

You act like Woody's comments listed Fife's transgressions individually. He did not. The coach made a decision and moved on. Other than Fife being a former player who cares.

Or were you hoping Fife was really the coach in waiting?
 
The problem with Woody is that he was only hired because he's an IU guy. He never would've been hired otherwise and it almost always ends in disaster.
That is what Joe Hillman and John Laskowski were screaming about on a podcast right before he got hired. They said the only way you can win is with IU guys. Well we had two IU guys now we have one but Hillman has not popped up anywhere the last day to grace us with his genius insight on Fife.
 
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