The fan base didn't hire him, nor fire him. I don't see people hating on him, but there obviously was a problem. It's been suspected on here for weeks/months and I pretty much ignored it, but now there's no question: he and CMW didn't see eye to eye. If CMW came to that realization, then he did the difficult, but correct thing. Tell me, what positive contribution can you cite that Dane Fife made this year? I don't believe he was credited with getting any of our recruits or commitments and that was noticeable to me.
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Did you not get the memo FIfe is the enemy now!! Good luck ever getting any younger IU alumni to coach at IU again after this is all I can say.
Imagine this off-season had we not come back from 17 down versus MI. It would have been ugly.
I wish people who were fine with a .500 record would just enjoy the team, and let those who care about higher standards "bitch" all they want to. Either way, the fans in the first group are going to be content.
I agree with what you are saying, and while it doesn't look promising to accomplish if TJD is truly gone, they're going to have to dig in, work the portal hard and put a team that performs at least a little better next year on the floor. On the one hand that seems difficult right now, but on the other, I thought we underperformed record-wise and were a better team than it showed record-wise. So, next year we need to come together and play better as a team. We're certainly due; it's been many, many years since an IU team surprised me and performed better as a team than I thought we were.
I think IU being invited to post season play made it a successful season, based upon our past performances, the ones a majority or our fans now are able to still remember. Next season, we can have a worse regular season record, but if we still make the tournament and can win our first (real) game in it, it will be another successful season by our "new normal" standards of futility. "Baby steps" will be heard along with occasional cries, coos and giggles.
Let all of Hoosier Nation be reminded, the unwavering love we once had for our Hall of Fame coach turned on him when it was decided he wasn't making a deep enough run in post season play. This was a major factor in the perceived notion he had lost his ability to relate to the changing mindset of the youth of the day.
"...and they just laughed and laughed!" (but not as hard as what is heard up at West Laugh-he-yet)
Zoom out a little bit. The Woodson/Fife hire was sold on IU brotherhood and establishing some continuity in the program. Instead we have further division (didn't know that was possible) and a 65 year old head coach who just barely snuck in the tourney. The silver lining is Woodson just burnt all his bridges and will be unemployed after year 3 if he doesn't win.
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Yes we squeaked in with the win over Illinois and this team certainly had the talent to make the NCAA so it is good they did. Next year if he misses the NCAA alot of us will be upset but many wont. I know the routine after 20 years of this though Mike Davis never got to use these excuses he was trashed from day one and treated like crap. it is always the same excused . He needs four years, he has to get a full recruiting class, we are so young, wait til the shooters come, we had too many injuries, woodson cant shoot for them, you cannot judge a coach after two years, etc. It is always the same excuses for each coach and trust me they will be used again if we have a crappy year
We have no idea how it was handled. For all we know, it may have been a very gracious, gentlemanly departure. Assuming Fife's subsequent statement on the matter was sincere, all is well for both parties and we all know how much IU likes to party!
That is 100% correct despite what coach geez says. It was mending the old wounds and uniting the old players and the fan base. That is how dolson sold it because people were not super excitd about the Wooson hire. I dont care what any current Fife haters say that is how it was sold. Does not matter what happened it has done nothing but divide us again. So to Joe Hillman how is the you gotta hire IU guys thing working out for you!
If it was FIfe would have resigned. Instead he made them fire him. To me nothing of that seems like it was a gentlemanly departure and I am sure one day Fife will get to speak and tell his side. I hope he gets that chance.
I know some might not want to hear this but I like the fact that we are listening to the NBA coaches and not former MSU assistants. MSU, Wisc, and OSU have styles of play that need to die. Look at the freedom of movement in the SEC, ACC, Pac 12, Big East, then look where the McD's AA are going then look at the Big 10 success in the tourn. We need higher scoring games where the defense is like IU's this year (steals, blocks, proper positioning) as opposed to claw, grab, hold every play. This is how elite players want to play.
When you guys question why your program has trouble returning to prominence or hiring an A list head coach, look no further than this.
Every future candidate will ask himself/herself: if they will treat an alum who stayed loyal to the university at a turning point in the program and led them to a Final Four like this, what will they do to me?
Every future candidate will ask himself/herself: if they will treat an alum who stayed loyal to the university at a turning point in the program and led them to a Final Four like this, what will they do to me?
What are you talking about dumba$$?
I was calling you out for your BS take that this somehow burns a potential bridge in Woodson hiring another IU guy on staff.
Do less.
Probably for the same reason everyone thinks Woodson walks in water.
I see your point, but an argument could probably be made that anytime an employee is given the opportunity to resign in the eyes of his family and public before being "Your're fired!", offers a certain degree of gentlemanly departure steeped in graciousness of the giver, in this case "Woody".
He has plenty of allegations. If half of what was said is true, he’s lucky he wasn’t fired mid season.
Based on the ways Fife sabotaged himself, I think Fife is his own worst enemy.
That’s not true. There have been rumors of problems since January.
I’ll try to find link. He says Fife was negligent in recruiting duties, hated NIL and talked it down to players and families, and constantly talked politics and conspiracy theories to players even when asked to stop. Also that he leaked inside info to reporters, etc. Probably Dakich for one.
We have another 5 star burger boy (I think he was Mcdonalds all American, ya?) With any luck he starts and plays 25 mins a game like Houstan or Christie did this year
Please, no more teasing-it's a form of bullying. Just tell us what was said, in summary, no bull-shit, all I ask of Thee.
He is not the enemy but at the same time he never walked on water with me.
Why would anyone in their right mind want Fife to be the next head coach without first proving himself somewhere/anywhere? If he hadn't played for IU he wouldn't be on our radar.
It was a tough gig, but he did not exactly light it up as a head coach the first time. But agree the man is not Satan all of a sudden. Sometimes things don't work out. Time to move on.
Exactly. Fife wasn’t just deadweight, he was actively *undermining* the program according to everything that’s coming out now. GTFO.
The world weeps when IU circles its proverbial wagons.
Again, this is why you’re currently mired in mediocrity. No one wants to be done like this. NO ONE.
What's amazing to me is somehow Michigan State was able to put up with all of this for 10 years while not missing a beat.
Our program is a joke.
FIfe was Dolsons guy he hired him so this is 100% on him. So I hope he learned his lesson on the you gotta have an IU guy crap. The only people that care about that are the Ted Kitchels and Joe Hillmans who played at IU decades ago. No 18 year old kid gives a crap.
Coaches come and go. I'll be more worried if Yasir leaves as he was actually getting results in the recruiting trail. Or were you wanting Dane to be the next head coach?
It is seems amazing after 10 years as an assistant at a top program suddenly there are all these issues. It just all seems really odd to me. I find it very hard to believe Izzo would have put up with this alleged stuff becasue right now that is all it is. Two sides to every story despite what Fatjohns is saying.
According to who fatjohns? You believe every single rumor that comes? Could there possibly be a coordinated effort to destory Fife and only give one narrative? Just saying lots of time more info come out later that is not part of the original rumors.
Who cares if Fife is an IU guy or not? If what is being reported about Fife is true, he should have been fired long before yesterday, regardless of his alumni status. Being an alum doesn't give you the right to be insubordinate. That's Business 101. It would have been a worse look on Woodson to retain Fife simply because he was an alum over putting up with the crap Fife was reportedly doing.
According to check the other thread about Fife and the list of crimes against the program I’m accumulating, chumway. It’s quite an indictment.
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