Curtis Jones
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perhaps there is still a chance that we can land a late transfer.
He might be a shooter, but he's not a maker. He's not as good as Devonte, Aljami, or Rob.
Comparing those 4 in FG%, 3 FG%, FT%, & eFG%, Devonte & Aljami are better by a wide margin in every category. Curtis is better than Rob in 3 FG% and eFG%, but Rob will improve his %'s and he will be a superior overall player.
Jones isn't the answer to any of our needs.
That game against Kansas though. Wow. I thought he was going to be absolute stud.
That particular game of his proved to be an aberration, as was Fitzner's 16 point season best output his first game in an IU uniform. In fact, Evan started his career here hitting 14 of his first 17 field goals, scoring 16, 6 and 14 his first three games. He was "skunked" (as we like to say here in southern IN) the next three games but then drilled 4-6 against Duke, including 3-3 from three point land and a 12 point total. That was all before December. Can anyone think of other IU players who started strong in their IU careers, only to prove later that it only gave us false hope?
I don’t think he qualifies because he did lead the Big Ten in scoring his one and only year at IU. My parameters are new players who make a big early “splash” only to later prove to be very pedestrian in the ability to contribute.
From my memory Vonleh was great as a freshman. His rebounding is what surprised me. He was demanding double and sometimes triple teams. I said this before that if we had shooters that year he would have fed them all day long.
He led the Big Ten in rebounding. Was outside the top ten in scoring averaging around 11. Yogi was the leading scorer on that team.
Yes, I understand that he was a disappointment offensively, but he never had a monster game the first couple of games of his short lived career here that falsely got our hopes up that he would be better than what he ended up being, based upon a performance that would later prove to be an aberration, i.e. something out of the norm.
You said he was leading scorer in the big ten. I simply pointed out that he wasn’t. I understand what aberration is, but thanks for the definition. Leading scorer in Big Ten, i.e. the person that has the highest scoring average per game in the conference...Not Noah Vonleh.
I thought Marty Simmons was going to be a force for us. Over 9 ppg as a freshman, started 26 games, averaged almost 30 minutes... sophomore year was a complete bust - and that was it.
Agree . . . loved Marty out of the gate. But, during the second year it became obvious that things were not going well and he left after season two joining Jim Crews in Evansville.
Ok, fair enough. But Vonleh faded down the stretch as I recall. Fine first half the season though. Simmons or Grunwald could be in the discussion.
True. But as above, faded down the stretch.
Grunwald was damaged goods with his blown knee by the time he got here. We never did get a chance to see the real Glen Grunwald.
Loved Marty Simmons as a frosh, but he eventually ate himself off the team and out of Bloomington. Showed up beginning of soph yr some 20 lbs heavier. Has struggled with his weight much of his adult life.
Didn't he get injured? I could be wrong but I thought he had a shoulder problem.
I meant to say Vonleh led the BT in rebounds, not points, as Cutter 1973 immediately corrected me. Sorry for the confusion. I should have immediately edited the statement, but didn't and won't at this point.
My whole point was to name players who gave us false hope early on, someone who has a monster scoring game (for them) which later proves to be totally out of their norm. Fitzner started great his first three games or so and then went into a major shooting slump, especially when BT action started. Someone had mentioned the great game Curtis Jones had against Kansas very early in his IU career. He's another example and the sample size is small because there aren't too many who fit the parameters. I'm not referring to hyped players who disappoint, but players who make you think early on that they've adapted to the next level of game from high school (or smaller college) but really haven't or someone who you think has finally "turned the corner" but then goes back to their same old ways of wonder. I can't think of any others but was hoping someone else could.
