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Coronavirus case increase sets new U.S. record, rising to over 184K in one day

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Coronavirus case increase sets new U.S. record, rising to over 77K in one day
The record-breaking tally comes in a week when a top CDC official said the agency is seeing a "distressing trend" of coronavirus case numbers "increasing in nearly 75 percent of the country."


The U.S. set a record Thursday as the number of new coronavirus cases rose to over 77,000, topping the previous record in July.
Nationwide, 77,640 new cases were reported for the day, up from the previous record of 75,723 on July 29, according to the latest tally compiled by NBC News.

The record-breaking daily tally comes as the total number of coronavirus cases in the country has reached nearly 8.5 million, with 224,280 deaths. There were 921 coronavirus-related deaths reported on Thursday.

Public health officials warned this week that the number of cases is rising across most of the country.

Dr. Jay Butler, deputy director for infectious diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Wednesday afternoon that the agency has noted a "distressing trend" in which coronavirus case numbers are "increasing in nearly 75 percent of the country."

Much of the increase is centered in the Midwest. States like Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska and Wisconsin have recorded rises in case numbers in the last two weeks.

Public health officials attribute the spikes, in part, to cooler weather that is forcing people indoors.

"Smaller, more intimate gatherings with family, friends and neighbors may be driving infections," Butler said, while also acknowledging pandemic fatigue among the public.

"We get tired of wearing masks, but it continues to be as important as it's ever been," he said.
 
...rounding the corner...

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Thank goodness we've learned to live with it.

Also, get down on your knees and say a prayer of thanks to Lord Trump for having both the genius and courage to shut down travel from China, sparing tbe lives of over 600 million Americans.
 
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Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.

What we want to know isn’t the crude fatality rate (deaths divided by entire population, infected or not), it’s the case fatality rate: if someone is known have become infected with COVID-19, how likely is it that they will die?

The answer to that question varies with time and place, but in the USA it peaked at 6% in May and has not been below 3% since March (and it's 3% right now): https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

Many more people have likely been infected and don't know it, and have lived their lives without knowing. So that would be an infection mortality rate and it would be less than 3% right now. While it COULD be less than 1%, there is, to date, no hard data to make that assertion.

Not that you have ever cared about hard data or facts.
 
There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.
This isn't about "living in daily despair with death." It's about recognizing that cases are surging (in red states as well as blue), and that people need to be prudent and considerate (for example, by wearing phucking masks) because the virus can be deadly - - something that Trump himself acknowledged to Bob Woodward but tried to hide from the public early in the pandemic.

Trump's messaging has been and continues to be all over the place with respect to the pandemic. His leadership has been abysmal, he continues to set a horrifically bad example by being literally the only person in the country who sponsors gatherings of thousands of people without masks and social distancing, and he is the undisputed superspreader-in-chief. But go ahead and continue to support this miserable excuse for a president and a human being.
 
There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.
Exactly. the endless fear-mongering and one way narrative of cases, cases, is exhausting, it's mentally exhausting, with zero consideration for the insidious health impact of lockdowns. over 8 million in poverty since may. google the health impact of poverty. heart disease and cancer will kill 3x as many americans this year as covid and a considerable portion of that is tethered to poverty. but no let's just keep posting a thousand times a day about new cases - bc it's transparently a way to keep attacking trump. no one can be that myopic to post over and over and over about new cases. never about the other side of the ledger. never about the endless repercussions of lockdowns. never about the failings of local politicians who actually are the only ones with authority to mandate anything.

anyway. the most disgusting element in all of this is the failure to wear masks. even if masks don't do a FIng thing how big of aholes are people not to wear them if for no other reason than to quiet the dissent for same. WEAR MASKS
 
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There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.

For many of us there's nuance between those extremes. I know that's a concept you struggle with though. 😉
 
What we want to know isn’t the crude fatality rate (deaths divided by entire population, infected or not), it’s the case fatality rate: if someone is known have become infected with COVID-19, how likely is it that they will die?

The answer to that question varies with time and place, but in the USA it peaked at 6% in May and has not been below 3% since March (and it's 3% right now): https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

Many more people have likely been infected and don't know it, and have lived their lives without knowing. So that would be an infection mortality rate and it would be less than 3% right now. While it COULD be less than 1%, there is, to date, no hard data to make that assertion.

Not that you have ever cared about hard data or facts.

It has to be well nuanced hard data and facts.
 
Good news!!!

According to some, the disease will be gone November 4.


As much as I would for that idiotic notion to be true...well...idiotic.

Is this the third, or fourth date it’s supposed to disappear? It was supposed to disappear by Easter, Memorial Day and now Election Day. Am I missing one?

If they push this out to another two or three dates, people are going to start to catch on.
 
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There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.

There ARE two types of people in this world, but your definitions aren't quite correct.

The way I see it, there are:

1. Those willing to make small sacrifices for the sake of the however-many percent of people who are at serious risk of suffering and perhaps even dying because of this virus.

2. Those who don't give a rat's ass about anyone or anything other than their own comfort and wealth.
 
There ARE two types of people in this world, but your definitions aren't quite correct.

The way I see it, there are:

1. Those willing to make small sacrifices for the sake of the however-many percent of people who are at serious risk of suffering and perhaps even dying because of this virus.

2. Those who don't give a rat's ass about anyone or anything other than their own comfort and wealth.

There is third category. Those who are willing to make small sacrifices for the sake of those who are like minded and live life accordingly. The case could be made they don't realize there is a difference between this and #1 because they've never been in the position. However, they tend to be people who whine about any tax hike and talk about how much they give to charity.
 
What we want to know isn’t the crude fatality rate (deaths divided by entire population, infected or not), it’s the case fatality rate: if someone is known have become infected with COVID-19, how likely is it that they will die?

The answer to that question varies with time and place, but in the USA it peaked at 6% in May and has not been below 3% since March (and it's 3% right now): https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

Many more people have likely been infected and don't know it, and have lived their lives without knowing. So that would be an infection mortality rate and it would be less than 3% right now. While it COULD be less than 1%, there is, to date, no hard data to make that assertion.

Not that you have ever cared about hard data or facts.

Crude fatality rate isn't informative. Your 3% death rate is useless in figuring out a policy response without also knowing age related and comorbidity death rates. A legit data guy would understand this.

The <70 survival rate is 99%. The >70 rate is 95%. Neither figure is vary scary. We can further refine this. <20 is 99.997. 20-50 is 99.98%.
 
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cancan be that myopic to poWEAR MASKS
Most people do. Cases are spiking everywhere despite this, and mortality rates are in decline.

There is third category. Those who are willing to make small sacrifices for the sake of those who are like minded and live life accordingly. The case could be made they don't realize there is a difference between this and #1 because they've never been in the position. However, they tend to be people who whine about any tax hike and talk about how much they give to charity.
Do you think paying tax is equivalent to giving to charity?
 
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There is third category. Those who are willing to make small sacrifices for the sake of those who are like minded and live life accordingly. The case could be made they don't realize there is a difference between this and #1 because they've never been in the position. However, they tend to be people who whine about any tax hike and talk about how much they give to charity.
Tax hike and charity are an odd comparison. I personally know folks who’ve had buildings at major universities named after them yet whine about tax hikes - for good reason.
 
There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.

There are two types of people in the world:

1) Those who insist that there are two types of people in this world that are defined by some straw man they make up in their head

2) Everybody else
 
Thank goodness we've learned to live with it.

Also, get down on your knees and say a prayer of thanks to Lord Trump for having both the genius and courage to shut down travel from China, sparing tbe lives of over 600 million Americans.
Sarcastic, right?
If not, did you know that Trump is infecting people wherever he goes?


I only wish he would take Pence with him on these rallies.

If not sarcastic, you should get down on your knees and kiss Trump's butt for lying so well about his so-called "genius" in allowing 430,000+ people to fly to the U.S. directly from China during the the same time he lied to you about banning travel from China. The following is from Trump State News, so you should find it reliable:

 
There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.

3. And those who try to bullshit their way through a pandemic by using hyperbolic extremes for the sole transparent purpose of defending an incompetent orange cult leader.. .

A smart person would realize that 1 and 2 are both generally true and act accordingly.

While a brainwashed idiot would pick #3.
 
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Exactly. the endless fear-mongering and one way narrative of cases, cases, is exhausting, it's mentally exhausting, with zero consideration for the insidious health impact of lockdowns. over 8 million in poverty since may. google the health impact of poverty. heart disease and cancer will kill 3x as many americans this year as covid and a considerable portion of that is tethered to poverty. but no let's just keep posting a thousand times a day about new cases - bc it's transparently a way to keep attacking trump. no one can be that myopic to post over and over and over about new cases. never about the other side of the ledger. never about the endless repercussions of lockdowns. never about the failings of local politicians who actually are the only ones with authority to mandate anything.

anyway. the most disgusting element in all of this is the failure to wear masks. even if masks don't do a FIng thing how big of aholes are people not to wear them if for no other reason than to quiet the dissent for same. WEAR MASKS

You need to mandate mask wearing.



It works -- here we have like 2 cases in the last five days. Zero the last two days. Mandated masks and enforced social distancing.

Covid > politics.
 
Tax hike and charity are an odd comparison. I personally know folks who’ve had buildings at major universities named after them yet whine about tax hikes - for good reason.

They aren't an odd comparison, because there are plenty of people who whine about tax hikes and conflate it disposable income that they would otherwise give to charity. Forget about the whining aspect of it. If they have less disposable income, it does make sense they would have less to give to charity.

New buildings at universities rarely further the cause of providing help for the needy. It's often a "legacy" play, which is essentially a vanity play. It does help a university defray major expenses on buildings they already have built or would otherwise build.

We all gripe a little about higher taxes.
 
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They aren't an odd comparison, because there are plenty of people who whine about tax hikes and conflate it disposable income that they would otherwise give to charity. Forget about the whining aspect of it. If they have less disposable income, it does make sense they would have less to give to charity.

New buildings at universities rarely further the cause of providing help for the needy. It's often a "legacy" play, which is essentially a vanity play. It does help a university defray major expenses on buildings they already have built or would otherwise build.

We all gripe a little about higher taxes.
Charitable giving allows for greater accountability. You can designate your gift to United way and know exactly how the money is used. You can call the allocations associate and see the benefit of same. Taxes go into a massive amorphous pool you have zero ability to earmark and to a gov that has proven a wasteful, lousy steward of same. As I said taxes and charity are a terrible comparison. Charity you have input and greater accountability. Gov ha. We should fight every tax increase to the death until we see less waste, more accountability, and better outcomes - as we would with a University or charity. The idea that people making over 400k could get taxed at 62% in calif and ny is a joke. I’d move straight to fla and Tex. Why the hell would anyone with an iq over 70 trust the gov (s) to spend 62% of what you make
 
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Charitable giving allows for greater accountability. You can designate your gift to United way and know exactly how the money is used. You can call the allocations associate and see the benefit of same. Taxes go into a massive amorphous pool you have zero ability to earmark and to a gov that has proven a wasteful, lousy steward of same. As I said taxes and charity are a terrible comparison.

It doesn't matter. That's still how it's argued by those who battle for lower taxes. It's a battle at some levels for disposable income. When taxes go up, charitable contributions go down. They are related.

And you can't just cherry pick one major organization and act like it's how all charities operate. Congratulations! Great! Give to the United Way.

I don't blame people who want to see the fruits of their donation at work. However, there are still major areas of need, and if most of what we do is just "take care of own", it's still a situation of the haves vs the have nots.
 
It doesn't matter. That's still how it's argued by those who battle for lower taxes. It's a battle at some levels for disposable income. When taxes go up, charitable contributions go down. They are related.

And you can't just cherry pick one major organization and act like it's how all charities operate. Congratulations! Great! Give to the United Way.

I don't blame people who want to see the fruits of their donation at work. However, there are still major areas of need, and if most of what we do is just "take care of own", it's still a situation of the haves vs the have nots.
The difference is accountability. I blame Dems for being too accepting of taxes without more fleecing and accountability. I did a masters in public admin. The entire way gov agencies request funding and budget increases is exactly why no one should willlingly support tax increases without greater accountability and demonstrative results tethered to tax dollars as we see with charities.

In calif and ny if you made $400k you would take home $152k. Now that is an absolute joke considering how much waste there is with gov. And you don’t even get healthcare! Charities fight and scratch for donor dollars. The gov deems it an entitlement and treats it in keeping
 
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There are two type of people in this world:

1. Those who see a "dark winter" coming and live in daily despair with death.

2. Those who know 99%+ will not be sick or fully recover from an infection and try to live a normal life with hope.
My wife, who is 41 and in good health, tested positive last Sunday. She’s had the symptoms of a mild cold, with no fever. The worst part of her getting it is our whole family has been in quarantine since then. Our kids can’t go back to school until November 9th. I can’t go back to work until the 29th.

My dad, who is 76, caught it around 2 months ago, and it very nearly killed him. He still hasn’t fully recovered.

So much depends on the circumstances of the person who gets sick. Although you’re right about the 99%, we still need to protect the 1 percent.
 
My dad, who is 76, caught it around 2 months ago, and it very nearly killed him. He still hasn’t fully recovered.
So much depends on the circumstances of the person who gets sick. Although you’re right about the 99%, we still need to protect the 1 percent.

Problem is it's unpredictable. It's like a stress test -- It will attack or stress out the most vulnerable parts of your system.

That's why people who didn't have the usual chronic disease pre-conditions have suffered. Its a bit like how professional football players suddenly collapse -- the extreme stress they body undergoes and then suddenly... the dam breaks.
 
The difference is accountability. I blame Dems for being too accepting of taxes without more fleecing and accountability. I did a masters in public admin. The entire way gov agencies request funding and budget increases is exactly why no one should willlingly support tax increases without greater accountability and demonstrative results tethered to tax dollars as we see with charities.

In calif and ny if you made $400k you would take home $152k. Now that is an absolute joke considering how much waste there is with gov. And you don’t even get healthcare! Charities fight and scratch for donor dollars. The gov deems it an entitlement and treats it in keeping

No one looks to accept more taxes without accountability, and both sides of the aisle are guilty.
 
At this point, I’m not sure that we have actual shutdowns. The problem now is irresponsible assholes. Like all these people:

it's so demoralizing. even if they don't believe masks do anything why can't they just wear them not because they believe they help but as a show of solidarity. that we're in it together. like they wear colored bracelets for cancer etc. this messaging is the mistake trump made
 
it's so demoralizing. even if they don't believe masks do anything why can't they just wear them not because they believe they help but as a show of solidarity. that we're in it together. like they wear colored bracelets for cancer etc. this messaging is the mistake trump made

Messaging/execution is 80% of the game.

CDC and healthcare authorities around the world always knew masking and social distancing were the answer -- for years.

Back in late Feb/March, I had given a link to Singapore's Pandemic Management plan -- they all mentioned masking and social distancing as key tools. Thats why I was a masking proponent right from the start.

Getting the message across and getting people to do it was the key -- something a scamming pitchman like Trump would have been good at if he had taken the right path.

The two worst countries in the world are UK and US -- both had leaders who muddied the well at the start for political reasons and the electorates have paid the price.

Hopefully, Mister Pitchman Trump, who has sold scams from Trump Steaks to Wine and University 'degrees' has made his final scam/pitch.
 
Messaging/execution is 80% of the game.

CDC and healthcare authorities around the world always knew masking and social distancing were the answer -- for years.

Back in late Feb/March, I had given a link to Singapore's Pandemic Management plan -- they all mentioned masking and social distancing as key tools. Thats why I was a masking proponent right from the start.

Getting the message across and getting people to do it was the key -- something a scamming pitchman like Trump would have been good at if he had taken the right path.

The two worst countries in the world are UK and US -- both had leaders who muddied the well at the start for political reasons and the electorates have paid the price.

Hopefully, Mister Pitchman Trump, who has sold scams from Trump Steaks to Wine and University 'degrees' has made his final scam/pitch.
We need better role models.
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