Contest: What will Trump say at the UN assembly?
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And I deleted all those posts for you, so your whining rings a little hollow.
Really? So you do pay for sex and you think that the hookers love you. Thanks for clearing it up.
You most definitely can be a Knight fan and detest Trump. I think anyone here can attest to the fact that I am both of those.
Damn. I wondered who beat me to that one.
Did you PM him a warning to stop like you've done with me more than once?
Of course not.....because he keeps doing it.
If it helps you sleep at night and thinking you're morally superior to believe that, knock yourself out.
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This is the greatest thread I've ever witnessed on the Water Cooler.
I'm not inclined to be concerned for you when you respond to good faith posting with personal attacks.
It's time to rein things back in. Put each other on ignore if you can't stay civil.
Which proves my point that as long as people are nice to YOU, you don't care if they break the rules non-stop.
Thanks.
Let's see if you actually "reign him in" or continue his non-stop personal attacks because you're BFF's..
Thanks.
Let's see if you actually "reign him in" or continue his non-stop personal attacks because you're BFF's..
I loved Trump's comments about Venezuela and socialism....
...and, what's more, I love the tepid response they drew.
I don't know that the man truly believes that (I certainly hope he does). And I strongly doubt he wrote the words. But I'm damn glad he said them.
...and, what's more, I love the tepid response they drew.
I don't know that the man truly believes that (I certainly hope he does). And I strongly doubt he wrote the words. But I'm damn glad he said them.
You said the same thing 3 days, and 50 attack posts, ago.
You think it's great he's threatening them with military action?
I thought he was the Peace President and Hillary was the War-Monger.....
That naughty word. It always gives you that thrill up your legTime to bomb!
No. Venezuela should (but, alas, won't) be looked upon as yet another object lesson for why socialism is such a bad and destructive force.
What's so tragically ironic about it is that it's always sold on the premise of actually helping the poor. The people there are having to eat their pets, for chrissakes. And it's among the most resource-rich nations on the planet.
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So to quote the South Park underwear gnomes, the steps to follow are now:
- Trump tells world that Venezuela should revert to real democracy
- ?????????
- Venezuela reverts to real democracy
Your conclusion from trump's comments on Venezuela was "socialism led to the downfall of Venezuela?" Do I have that right?
I was prepared to vote for him under the guise that he wouldn't invade sovereign states under any circumstance.
My conclusion was that he gave socialism the condemnation it deserves in the place it perhaps most needs to be said.
Reagan couldn't have put it any better -- I particularly enjoyed his pointing out that its failure wasn't the result of doing socialism wrong, but of doing it right.
And how about calling Kim rocket man? So presidential, as usual. His advisors asked him not to, but of course, he thinks he is so clever with his nicknames. Our national embarrassment.
I didn't watch the speech, so I'm just taking for granted your comments about it. To which I respond: to what end?
Most of the world doesn't have this ridiculously childish view of socialism that many Americans have. They've figured out that where socialism does and does not work has nothing to do with its label. Do you really imagine world leaders hearing Trump, and saying to themselves, "Wow, good point, maybe all our health care and other social safety net programs really are a bad idea?"
In other words, are his comments really anything other than red meat directed specifically at other Americans, particularly Americans like you?
Un-checked capitalism is just as bad.
The rich have never been richer and if those "evil liberals" had done nothing, they'd have even more money....and STILL think they need more.
And our country would be even more polluted and even more workers hurt/killed from unsafe conditions because regulations "cost jobs."
Precisely why I loved his comment: to preemptively address the obligatory "But it's NOT socialism!" excuse for socialism's latest failure.
Tell you what, here's The Economist on Venezuela:
"The economic policy discussions at the ANC seem to be aimed—for the most part—at refining price control policies and pushing ahead with the socialist model that has propelled Venezuela's economic problems."
And here's the Socialist Worker:
"By contrast, revolutionary socialists view what's happening in Venezuela not as a result of socialism failing, but as a consequence of the fact that it was never implemented."
You can decide for yourself which of those two publications has the correct view (not to mention any credibility).
But I'd just say that we've seen this movie before -- a number of times. Every time socialism fails (as it invariably does), socialists excuse it away by saying it wasn't really socialism to begin with.
Oh, I agree. That's why I've never advocated unchecked capitalism -- but, rather, the checked variety.
Yet the two things we hear more than anything from Righties (besides immigrants and gays are bad) is a) more tax cuts for the super rich b) get rid of all regulations because it's "costing us jobs"
I mean, Trump just made it legal to kill bears while they are hibernating.
Why pick on socialism? Venezuela was poor and miserable even before socialism took over. For every miserable socialist county, one can easily counter with equally miserable capitalist counterparts.
Reducing regulations -- particularly bad ones -- is hardly the same thing as eliminating regulation in toto.
Same with lowering taxes.
Are you saying that somebody who advocates for making it tougher to purchase and own a gun is, actually, advocating the banishment of private firearms altogether?
In order to have "unchecked" capitalism, you'd have to have no taxes and no regulation. I don't know of anybody -- short of genuine anarchists -- who has ever advocated that.
Righties, especially Trump, have gone WAY overboard rolling back regulations.
Heck, right before the hurricanes hit, he canned a regulation to protect people from hurricanes.
And the reason the damage from them is SO bad is because Righties said, "Screw regulations. Build wherever you want to. Who gives a crap if it's in a major flood zone and you don't put in protections? If it gets flooded out, the Feds will pay for it."
You're kidding yourself if you don't think these guys would get rid of virtually every single regulation out there if they could.
Heck, I've had debates with "Libertarians" who openly bragged there should be zero regulations and let "the market" take care of anything bad that happened.
I'm not kidding myself. Nobody I've ever discussed these matters with is in favor of zero regulations or zero taxes -- which is what unfettered capitalism would entail. And I've discussed it with gobs of libertarians.
That's a howling non sequitur.
Ok. 90%.
Happy?
Just go on down the list. Heck, they're talking about drilling in the freaking Grand Canyon.
As far as taxes, Trump hasn't paid taxes in about 20 years because of special write-offs he and his rich buddies get.
Why pick on socialism? Venezuela was poor and miserable even before socialism took over. For every miserable socialist county, one can easily counter with equally miserable capitalist counterparts.
Venezuela was the wealthiest country in Latin America prior to Chavismo. And they have the largest oil reserves in the world.
They did have serious issues with income inequality.
They have seemed to fix the inequality issue. Now everybody is dirt poor (other than the high ranking govt officials and the generals).
Venezuela is on the brink of total collapse.
Once you reach the point that there is no food available....how can it really sustain?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...01/17/in-venezuela-money-has-stopped-working/
Then you have the fact that their oil output has hit a 28 yr low, as nobody will do business with them anymore.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...lummeted-to-decades-low-in-2017-idUSKBN1F720C
Once you reach the point that there is no food available....how can it really sustain?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...01/17/in-venezuela-money-has-stopped-working/
Then you have the fact that their oil output has hit a 28 yr low, as nobody will do business with them anymore.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...lummeted-to-decades-low-in-2017-idUSKBN1F720C
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