Consistency for Green
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Phinessee has more BB IQ, and is a true PG. I think the PG will be Robert Phinesee and Al Durham. With Green, Romeo, and Anderson also handling the ball at the top of the key and out on the fast break. Anderson can play point forward and most teams will not be able to match up with him on the perimeter. Romeo is a complete offensive player who is just gifted offensively and will have the ball in his hands a lot as IU's #1 option on offense. On top of being a good shooter with great range, Romeo is a great straight line driver and passer, making him a true triple threat offensive player.
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Know there's a lot of wings/forwards/what have you on the Roster - don't reckon we'll see a lot of three-guard activity. But maybe comes a time...
Just an idle notion.
Just an idle notion.
Packline doesn't do well with the 2 and 3 being undersized. So take that into consideration. It favors 6'4 to 6'6 wing guards and 6'5 to 6'8 wing forwards.
The wings in a packline shade towards the lane to prevent post ups and drives into it, but it puts them in a bad position to close on shooters, which is the weakness of a packline that can be exploited. Like ISU and FW did.
It's paramount that the wings have the height, length and quickness to close or the defense will break down.. It also helps they have the same traits to guard the lane which in a packline is called the no catch zone.
We won't see many 3 guard lineups in the foreseeable future except as an end game ball-handling unit. They are a thing of an orange past.
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I was thinking about this very aspect during a game last season. The roster really wasn't constructed for much, let alone the PL. iu fans have become so accustomed to the 3guard lineup, I think we won't see it as much this season and even less going forward.
Copy that, simply musing about how Devo, Romeo and Phin might play together with Justin and Juwan on the Floor. At least offensively seems like a potent line-up if Green's game is evolving to match his athleticism and speed though it would depend a lot on two true freshmen.
Really just passing time until the Season begins. Can't recall an instance where IU had seven new Players (5 recruits + Fitzner & Thompson) available that all have the potential/likelihood to contribute beyond practice. Whatever else it's going to be a really interesting year, and more so since it will be the Coaching Staff's first full seamless year of work installing a new system, mindset, etc. If it were physics the expectation would be that IU Men's BB is about to make a 'quantum leap', as in they're going to kick some ass.
I expect we will see a lineup with those 3 guards and Morgan and Smith. Rob could play a true PG role and have 4 scorers on the court. The amount we see it depends on the development of our front court players and health of Davis.
I love it when a small lineup is so effective that it forces a team to also go small. I hate it when we go small because we don't have any post players.
Actually it could mean any number of things - a surgically effective unit with good chemistry, the line-up that on occasion is best suited to match-up against the opposing team, the five Players that earn it in practice, etc. Not saying that will be the case, but am pretty sure whatever combo we see on the floor it will be the one that Coach deems best at the time. Not inclined toward 'disheartening' moments just because big doesn't turn out to be best.
Time will tell. My opinion is, if IU is getting so little out of their bigs that they decide playing small is their best option, it's going to be a long season. The best teams - the teams that win it all - have multiple bigs contributing.
Deep breath. Everything else doesn't have to fail to occasion three guards playing at the same time, not that it's likely to be the rule rather than the exception. Nor would that guarantee that "multiple bigs" won't be contributing, except for the fact that IU doesn't even have multiple bigs that are likely to be suiting up when the Season starts (Davis) or far enough along to play significant minutes (Moore). Apart from those two, only Fitzner qualifies as a "big" and his rep is not as a rim protector. The rest of the Roster is 6'8" (Juwan/Race, Forrester), 6'7" (Smith, Anderson, Hunter) or under so IU isn't going to be dominating anyone early on with size - only talent and execution.
In any case, if/when a three-guard lineup happens, doesn't automatically mean that IU's big(s) isn't/aren't worthy or performing - might just mean that in certain circumstances IU's smaller quicker personnel might match up better against their opponents and/or present them with their own issues. As for teams that win it all, recall "small ball" lineups are doing pretty well of late in the NBA.
Whatever else is true or not, and at least for the first part of the Season, 'bigness' isn't going to win IU many games.
Three guards has nothing to do with the bigs. It would have everything to do with the wings.
But you are correct matchups dictate the lineup. If that lineup is an advantage vs certain opponents or situations it will be used. but it will not be our common lineup unless Smith fails to develop into a three, which means he comes off the bench. And, it would state that Hunter is not ready, McBob regressed, and Anderson is not ready.
There's a reason Arch is recruiting tall long wings, and it's certainly not to play with a 6'3 6'1 backcourt. He wants an effective defense and that defense is based on having long tall wings.
If Smith. McBob, Hunter and Anderson have issues playing 3 that lineup is quite possible.
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Natch. Essentially everyone not a guard and ready to play is a wing. Not strictly your point but neither was mine an assertion that having Devonte Romeo, Phinesse, Juwan and Justin on the court together would be routine or even optimal. IMO it's possible they might simply be the best pure talents on the Team at this point and hence the notion of seeing them play as a unit.
89-90. Eight.
08-09. I guess the number is debatable but not the fact they were all new.
08-09 was an understandable anomaly because of the 'house cleaning' & coaching change. No idea what was going on in '89...
It might not be a true 3 guard lineup, but we will have the opportunity for a quick lineup made. I like that Archie see what is happening in the game and will have the right people in the game. Sometimes quickness and skill can offset a height advantage.
I remember the whole town showing up to see a 7'+ high school player (Hollander, or Hollanden?) from Evansville. Most had never seen a high school player that size. The crowd roared with laughter when our 6'-4 center beat him for the opening tip. The kid was a stiff, but eventually went to Oral Roberts to play basketball.
Much closer to always than sometimes IME/O. Add 'intangibles' like chemistry, teamwork, execution, misdirection and that thing often referred to as want to, and you've the makings of perhaps the greatest game ever.
