That is precisely my point and they had the best player on the field today in Rondale Moore and he was the difference today.
Completely Unacceptable
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Rutgers, for one. Didn't even have to leave our division to find one. They have 5 football bowl appearances in the last 10 seasons (counting this one), and their basketball team hasn't even made the NIT.
Even by the arbitrary line and standards you chose, we're better than them. There are probably a few others in conferences I don't follow closely. Big surprise, your outlandish statement doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Again.
I'm hoping you don't see 2-7, 2-7 as a positive? Not clear from your post.
We suck.
2-7, 2-7 under Allen.
Two straight Bucket losses.
What's the brightside? What's the reason to think this staff has anything to offer?
I was going overall record because IU will always have a losing record in conference. We pretty much have 4 automatic losses in OSU, UM, PSU and most years MSU so we have to do well in the non conference.
Yes 13 from 10 is not that great and he also lost at home to EMU. Not saying I want Allen over Brohm but he did have to win his last game just to get to those bowls. Also 247 sports have IU ranked 41st I the country in recruiting.
We found 1 in our own division. If I find a few more, will you shut up about our coaches for a month?
Please go boost and support a MAC school...something you're more comfortable with.
You know every week people come on and bad mouth Coach Debord but I never hear anyone make any legitimate crtitcsm. I hear well they should line up and run the i and just hand off every play like Iowa or Wisconsin even though we don’t have same personnel. Or else we should go to the triple option without an quarterback. Or we don’t throw the ball downfield enough. Or last they will pick out 2 or 3 plays during the game that did not work and rip for the calls.
Whatever because I have watched IU football for over 40 years and it has been the same song and dance for all but 7 seasons. For IU to be successful they need to run their program like Iowa and UW and turn their program to a smash mouth running team with a stout defense. It would take a few years to get those type of players but to me this spread up tempo offense is not the answer.
So you think IU in our lifetime could ever be a spot where they could actually compete for the big ten east division because if you do I have some ocean front property to sell you here in Indiana.
How about if you are good enough to beat Ohio State by 30 how do you explain losing at home to EMU?
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They just beat us...at home...again.
Would be great to have a staff that could beat OSU and Iowa...and Purdue...to get to a bowl.
How many more years do we have to get our asses kicked before we realize this ain't the right path?
So what you’re saying is 5-7 is a pretty safe bet. Congratulations on your keen insight before the season. The good news is you’re astute at analysing the team’s strengths and weaknesses relative to our opposition. The bad news is we finished 5-7 with no bowl bid. Now we can concentrate on basketball without the distraction of that other sport.
IU was a middle of the pack Big 10 team last year with Crean's leftovers. Jesus, you are a sorry SOB about IU basketball. If you aren't going give Archie more than 1.1 years, then F off.
Pathetic. Any Major University that goes cheap and hires an Assistant instead of Brohm or Fleck or another proven winner or rising star young coach, gets what they pay for and deserve this no bowl season again under Allen. Is it a 3 year or 4 year contract? Go Big or go home. Go cheap, and expect nothing in return.
It has been 1.1 years, and they are 5-1! The Marquette game was a thing of beauty. The end of the game last night was a thing of beauty. If this team can do that consistently on offense and defense, then not too many teams are going to beat IU. Not making excuses, but injuries, freshman, and the fact that it's the start of a new year are factors.
I know what I'm looking at, and you don't. If you are going to judge Archie on anything that happened last year, then you really don't know what you're looking at. You are a sorry ass fan.
You're a full blown moron. IUBB has lost one game, by 1 point to date..and half the damn roster is injured.
Thank you Vice President Fred Glass. Need to rename the
school Fred Glass University.
perhaps you would like to explain to us in detail how iu is poorly coached by miller. besides coaching the players not to get injured
yeah, that was bad. team lacks discipline. tough love over leo is in order
i am with you on letting allen coach his recruits. however, i am tired if 3 yard passes when we need 10 yards or more for a first down. allen needs to hire a new o.c. or go down with the ship
Sadly, you might be on to something there. I made the most of the Knight years. My junior year at IU was his first season. I was there for him at his Farewell Speech in Dunn Meadow. It ain’t the same now, but still fun to watch, just not as much.
Shouldn't take much for Archie to top Knight's record from '94 on. Hell, if he actually recruits instead of hunting or fishing, he will top it.
i cannot believe the likes this comment is getting. so much for indiana having knowledgeable basketball fans. when crean was coach, i would go into great detail from an x's and o's standpoint on what he was coaching incorrectly. miller knows what he is doing. people calling for his ouster already need to seek therapy. you know what they say: 1 in 5 people have psychological disorders. we are seeing the head count in this forum
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not really. head coach has plenty of opportunity to put his stamp on the program. stuff like that has, or should have been addressed long ago. punish hard the first time and in crucial times late in the season you won't have to worry about it.
not as long as the 3 best teams by far reside in the east
Exactly. IU refuses to do what is necessary to compete at the major college level. If that is what they want to do, so be it, but at least be honest with the fans about what the expectations should be.
he has to step back from the defense? but that is his forte and got him his head coaching opportunity. we witnessed his skill there
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