And still, with all of your empty bloviating, you can’t identify what Miller’s culture is at IU. Nothing from you at all. Improvement only comes with a tournament berth (your standard), coaching another sport doesn’t count (your standard (things are different now (your standard), but absolutely nothing, not one thing in regard to what Miller’s culture at IU. At least another poster thoughtfully took some guesses. You haven’t even tried, because you can’t, and it doesn’t matter to you, anyway.I'm dismissive because 2 of your examples were in a different sport entirely, none of them save for RMK achieved the lofty standard you claim is so important to you, and all of them were from 30-40 years ago and not in the current climate of college bball in which you can get a good class or 2 of recruits that in that 30-40 year timespan you could have developed in to a championship team, whereas now you will lose the very top players from that class and have to start over. It makes developing that culture that much more difficult. It's also interesting to note that UVA was largely devoid of losing recruits early in TBs tenure. You can't put meaning to anything you're saying. It's all on the Birnk sliding scale of subjectivity. What is TB's culture in specific terms? Keady's, RMKs? Let me see your specifically worded examples. It's not a mathematical formula and you're right of course to a degree, because as I admitted, CAM has yet to be successful in getting us there.
I never admitted I based progress solely on wins, but since you say I did, would you quote it please? Just another of your claims. I've never said anything other that the verdict is still out on Archie, but with this year he can show progress similar to those other programs I mentioned. My point was 1) you don't have some higher standard, you just have decided Archie's not the guy and that's the way you've decided to express it. My point it, you'd have also been complaining about the coaches I mentioned because it took them a similar length of time to show results similar to what it appears our results will be this year. And, oh yeah, I went back to see when BA was coaching at WI and he was actually 5-6 in his 3rd year too, and it wasn't until his 4th year that he made the jump, but I'm sure you'd have been good with under 500 in his third year because you'd have been so comfortable with the culture he created!
And those are the lowered expectations that you and others embody that have let the performance of the last 20+ years not matter as much as it used to. And it’s why apathy is setting in, why attendance keeps dropping, why the waiting list gets smaller and tickets are easier to find. Most of all, it’s why the program will stay mostly in the rut that has now been remodeled for it again and again.
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