6-6 on FT
3-5 FG
1-3 3pts
in 9 and a half minutes
3-5 FG
1-3 3pts
in 9 and a half minutes
CJ Gunn 13 at the half..
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finished with 21 points
6-13 FG
3-7 3pts
6-6 FTs
3 rebs
1 AST
1 TO
1 STL
18 and a half minutes
It'll be nice having a 6'6" Hoosier HS baller who can create his own shot(when was the last 1). Spot up shooters like Alford and Miller Kopp can be potent but in today's game the likes of players to Gunn, the kid from Wisky and what Galloway is trying to be are the advantage to a programs W/L. In other words a Woodson type player.
Not in the same sentence with Alford. Blasphemy!!
I can never tell these days if someone is serious or if I'm being trolled for laughs. Everyone has a good poker face behind a keyboard.
If you're serious, then you either have a lot of Alford-hate in your blood, or way too much manlove for Kopp.
Or wasn't alive to see Alford play.
You guys are missing it and bringing your narrative. The topic wasn't a comparison. The point is both are spot up shooters not slashers nor offense off the dribble. Gunn is. Got it.
I'm in my 8th decade. Whaddya think?
Wasn't Romeo a slasher/scorer? Eric Gordon? Calbert Cheney? Jay Edward's? Those 4 came after Alford so that goes back to original question
I wouldn't think so. He was clearly the best player on the court all weekend and would have stood out even if Loyer and Smith played. He's a very underrated prospect in my eyes.
Uh....Alford could shoot off the dribble. Alford could shoot from anywhere the moment that he entered the gym.
It's amazing how people underestimate just how good that guy was. Think about this, though - with the type of offense Woodson is trying to run, think about how valuable of a player Alford would be. He shot 53% from THREE POINT RANGE his senior year at IU. And this was when the B1G was great and all the defenses were set up to stop him.
And sorry, you don't become the all-time leading scorer in the B1G by just being a spot-up shooter (and yes, I know he's been passed by Cheaney, but still). I can understand why people were asking you if you ever saw him play. He had a very nice mid-range game as well.
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Alford was a helluva lot more than a "spot up" shooter. You never saw him play. How old are you? You post like you are under 45.
You need to read the detail in the posts above. He shot off the dribble in HS. For IU he was a spot up shooter because he owned the best movement without the ball in collegiate BB. Oh, 45 + 1/2 again + more.
Alford must have run 10 miles every game, running through the maze of screens in the RMK motion offense. He was a shooter but to call him a 'spot up' shooter is a rather large injustice. He was rarely left open to 'spot up'.
To each their own. Arguing semantics gives me a migraine.
Alford’s movement during a game was very comparable to a current S Curry. Not comparing their games otherwise but the miles were similar
watched Curry last night... Even though he had a terrible shooting game he is so impactful just because of his constant movement and dragging defenders with him... Would love to see someone with an Alford motor again. Of course if they can't shoot it can become mostly meaningless movement... So I guess what I'm asking for is a reincarnation??
"All his life, a big "W" on his chest." I like that one. Alford had something no other IU player has had. He wasn't blessed with the physical attributes one might expect in a great player, but Man, could he shoot, making the most of his talents through hard work.
Coach, I’m assuming you saw Woody play when he was a high school player at Broad Ripple. I first saw him play when he was scrimmaging with the other recruits in his great recruiting class before practice started. Do you see any of Woody’s game in CJ’s game? Thanks, Mike
Really tough comparison for Gunn. Woody was one of the best to do it both in high school and in an Indiana uniform. Woody was a bull and just had such a tough edge, no-nonsense demeanor about him. Probably a little unfair to CJ at this point.
That being said I think Gunn is a vastly underrated prospect. Don't let the people on here who only care about stars or whatever tell you otherwise. Very good shooter and a very good athlete who can get to the rim. I've said for two years he reminds me of Mo Creek. He may not make an immediate like Creek, but I think they have similar builds and similar games.
Gunn really needs to attack the weight room this summer and really commit himself to being a two-way player. He has the offensive abilities to play right away but most freshman get lost in the rotation come conference play because they're lost defensively, saw that with Bates this year. Gunn is a really good scorer and that should translate over the course of his 4 years in Bloomington but do think he needs to become more engaged offensively especially with an offense that isn't exclusively tailored to him like it was in high school.
You may want to go on YouTube and look up the games in the 1987 NCAA tournament and watch Alford. He created a lot of shots and needed only the briefest and smallest of openings to get his shots off. It might help your appreciation of just how good and how difficult it was for other teams to stop him. Learning is a good thing, particularly with your own eyes.
Gunn is going to be a great player for IU. Atr this point I can't estimate his pro prospects, but that is to be determined. I am impressed as heck at this floor game. Good get for the Hoosiers.
Who knows, maybe Smith gets Gunn extra buckets. He is a pretty good pg
You know the most shocking thing in that video clip? That was Dickie V talking, and he sounded so calm and insightful. Clearly, way before he became a caricature.
Alford wasn’t a spot up shooter though… Not that he couldn’t be, but that isn’t how I would describe him.
Nice write up from Crimson Quarry on CJ Gunn. I think CJ out plays his recruiting ranking.
CJ Shot over 37% from 3 in both his Junior and Senior years. Unlike Randy Wittman, CJ won’t switch from center to wing and starts his collegiate career with catch and shoot skills
[Bedford - North Lawerence] Star, Damon Bailey, had a storied run for CRMK.
https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2022/7/3/23185804/indiana-mens-basketball-c-j-gunn-scouting-report
CJ Shot over 37% from 3 in both his Junior and Senior years. Unlike Randy Wittman, CJ won’t switch from center to wing and starts his collegiate career with catch and shoot skills
[Bedford - North Lawerence] Star, Damon Bailey, had a storied run for CRMK.
https://www.crimsonquarry.com/2022/7/3/23185804/indiana-mens-basketball-c-j-gunn-scouting-report
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Thats BEDFORD North Lawrence, located in BEDFORD Indiana
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