Bird In The Hand

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

I bet Southern Cal wishes they had NOT gone after the "big time, big name, big money" hire, and just kept their "bird in the hand" - the guy who won the national championship last night.

They've been a hot mess ever since.

Go with what you know.

Sheridan looks better already.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

I still believe strongly that superior talent definitely masks some coaching flaws. Not saying Orgeron is a bad coach at all but he certainly struggled mightily at Ole Miss as they were trying to build up. That program also fired David Cutcliffe, I believe.

This is why I sometimes take issue with guys being declared “great coaches” when some of these schools just continue to pool 5-star talent.

Is the coach that great?
How about the guy who gets more out of less?

 

[MyTeamIsOnTheFloor]

I still believe strongly that superior talent definitely masks some coaching flaws. Not saying Orgeron is a bad coach at all but he certainly struggled mightily at Ole Miss as they were trying to build up. That program also fired David Cutcliffe, I believe.

This is why I sometimes take issue with guys being declared “great coaches” when some of these schools just continue to pool 5-star talent.

Is the coach that great?
How about the guy who gets more out of less?

I agree.

So if I had to choose between a current staff guy who I know can recruit, and an unknown, I'm sticking with my guy.

 

[fpeaugh]

Some coaches are just made for certain jobs. For Ed O that’s LSU. It’s like he was born for it.

I don’t think you can infer that he would have the same level of success at another program...USC in particular. He might have been worse than Helton. It’s apples and oranges though.

 

[indy1203]

Some coaches are just made for certain jobs. For Ed O that’s LSU. It’s like he was born for it.

I don’t think you can infer that he would have the same level of success at another program...USC in particular. He might have been worse than Helton. It’s apples and oranges though.

I noticed the LSU receivers were doing the same thing
that USC receivers were doing when Ed O was there. USC
receivers are still doing it, that little stutter step after the catch
to avoid the defender to get yards after the catch, has
to be coaching. A little thing with big results.

 

[TMFT]

I still believe strongly that superior talent definitely masks some coaching flaws. Not saying Orgeron is a bad coach at all but he certainly struggled mightily at Ole Miss as they were trying to build up. That program also fired David Cutcliffe, I believe.

This is why I sometimes take issue with guys being declared “great coaches” when some of these schools just continue to pool 5-star talent.

Is the coach that great?
How about the guy who gets more out of less?

I don't disagree that high end talent may mask a coach who is less good with the Xs and Os.

But I think the counterpoint is that at the FBS level, high level recruiting is just as big a part of being a great coach as it is being an Xs & Os genius. At the college level, it has to be a total package to really be at the top.

 

[Big Red Crimson Buffalo]

Some coaches are just made for certain jobs. For Ed O that’s LSU. It’s like he was born for it.

I don’t think you can infer that he would have the same level of success at another program...USC in particular. He might have been worse than Helton. It’s apples and oranges though.

I think they were ready to run him out of town during his second year there. They lost a home game to Troy and Matt Canada May have been the OC at that point.

 

[fpeaugh]

I noticed the LSU receivers were doing the same thing
that USC receivers were doing when Ed O was there. USC
receivers are still doing it, that little stutter step after the catch
to avoid the defender to get yards after the catch, has
to be coaching. A little thing with big results.

I’ve noticed it too. I’m sure other coaches are catching on as well. It’s very effective.