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Big Ten signs 7.5 billion dollar deal. That is incredible. "College" sports are certainly going to be different going forward.*

I don't think this is good for college sports.

I'm not sure they should even be referred to in that way anymore.

I keep debating if I am just an old geezer stuck in the past, or if this is a problem. I know there are B10 football players demanding a percentage of revenue. I think that will become the big problem, how do athletic programs do that and fund lacrosse teams? My guess is there will be a move to change Title IX and most Olympic sports will go away. I don't like that, but that may just be the inner old geezer coming through.
 
I keep debating if I am just an old geezer stuck in the past, or if this is a problem. I know there are B10 football players demanding a percentage of revenue. I think that will become the big problem, how do athletic programs do that and fund lacrosse teams? My guess is there will be a move to change Title IX and most Olympic sports will go away. I don't like that, but that may just be the inner old geezer coming through.
Or basketball and football break off and the left handed sports do their own thing. Hell there's really no reason for them to stay in the conference either. rutgers playing at usc etc. the left handed sports could join regional conferences
 
Or basketball and football break off and the left handed sports do their own thing. Hell there's really no reason for them to stay in the conference either. rutgers playing at usc etc. the left handed sports could join regional conferences

If football and basketball break off, all the other sports will die since football and basketball are what finance all the other team sports in college.
 
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If football and basketball break off, all the other sports will die since football and basketball are what finance all the other team sports in college.
It doesn't mean they wouldn't still fund the other sports. You know some of these sports operate on an annual budgets of only hundreds of thousands of dollars
 
If football and basketball break off, all the other sports will die since football and basketball are what finance all the other team sports in college.
And some of these programs already compete in other conferences. WVU (Big 12), Kentucky and South Carolina all play soccer in the Sun Belt, just by way of example
 
It doesn't mean they wouldn't still fund the other sports. You know some of these sports operate on an annual budgets of only hundreds of thousands of dollars
Yes, but with no real revenue at all. 10 programs with a $500,000 budget is $5 million.

Here is what a buddy just suggested on my Facebook:

Schools should just spin off their profitable sports programs and sell shares to the public. They could keep majority ownership (51% of shares) and use the stock sale to create an endowment for other sports. Dividend payments would also bring in cash for the school. Additionally, all the fiction about student-athletes could be ignored for the programs that go public.​
 
Yes, but with no real revenue at all. 10 programs with a $500,000 budget is $5 million.

Here is what a buddy just suggested on my Facebook:

Schools should just spin off their profitable sports programs and sell shares to the public. They could keep majority ownership (51% of shares) and use the stock sale to create an endowment for other sports. Dividend payments would also bring in cash for the school. Additionally, all the fiction about student-athletes could be ignored for the programs that go public.​
Man that's over my head Marv. Title IX will presumably be an issue. Maybe they should spinoff football and basketball and just throw in the towel on the left handed sports. Make them all club
 
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Yes, but with no real revenue at all. 10 programs with a $500,000 budget is $5 million.

Here is what a buddy just suggested on my Facebook:

Schools should just spin off their profitable sports programs and sell shares to the public. They could keep majority ownership (51% of shares) and use the stock sale to create an endowment for other sports. Dividend payments would also bring in cash for the school. Additionally, all the fiction about student-athletes could be ignored for the programs that go public.​
Again maybe they should just make everything club save football and basketball. soccer really doesn't need d1 anymore with mls next. baseball has always had the minors. i don't think big time tennis players or aspiring professional tennis players worry about playing college. golf you don't need college. i don't know about track and swimming etc.
 
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It doesn't mean they wouldn't still fund the other sports. You know some of these sports operate on an annual budgets of only hundreds of thousands of dollars

If football and basketball were to break off, why then would they still fund the other sports?

Indiana has something like 24 sports (I believe that's the number anyway). Football and basketball fund the vast majority of those.

No big 2, no little 22.

(And I hope that the TV money will be spent on upgrades to the football program. Football is what drives revenue. If we can get football going, the money will really start to come in).
 
If football and basketball were to break off, why then would they still fund the other sports?

Indiana has something like 24 sports (I believe that's the number anyway). Football and basketball fund the vast majority of those.

No big 2, no little 22.

(And I hope that the TV money will be spent on upgrades to the football program. Football is what drives revenue. If we can get football going, the money will really start to come in).
They'd be club. Funding could come from the university/fundraisers, whatever.
 
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This changes nothing. It's simply a bigger number. The fundamentals of how college sports aren't being changed. Yet.
 
This changes nothing. It's simply a bigger number. The fundamentals of how college sports aren't being changed. Yet.

A bigger number for the power football schools to get bigger toys to bring in the recruits.

Clemson has a flipping slide at their football complex. Why? Because they know that would set them apart and be a wow factor.

 
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A bigger number for the power football schools to get bigger toys to bring in the recruits.

Clemson has a flipping slide at their football complex. Why? Because they know that would set them apart and be a wow factor.

clemson's facilities are amazing. they even have a wiffle ball field in the football village. the whole set up is fantastic
 
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clemson's facilities are amazing. they even have a wiffle ball field in the football village. the whole set up is fantastic

For sure. The big boys do it right. They invest in their respective football programs, which in turn brings in HUGE money to the athletic departments.

That's why I'm saying that we need to invest in the football program, especially our indoor practice facility. It really just needs to be torn down and start over. A good punter can't even punt without hitting the roof.

Show a investment in football by the administration that coaches can sell and I think that would be a huge selling point to potential recruits.
 
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A bigger number for the power football schools to get bigger toys to bring in the recruits.

Clemson has a flipping slide at their football complex. Why? Because they know that would set them apart and be a wow factor.

Better question, why should a University that is austensibly in existence to educate continue to receive tax exempt status when they have money to blow on things like that?

Each school in the BIG is receiving millions in TV revenue each year and those hundreds of millions of dollars will get dumped into facilities that only a fraction of a percent of the student body actually gets any real benefit from (next to none of it educational) while the students walk away from the schools with ever increasing debt that is needed for the schools to continue doing their actual job.

You have students walking away from schools tens of thousands of dollars in debt while the athletic departments are lighting their cigars with Benjamins. They should be taxed as the semi pro teams they are now.
 
Better question, why should a University that is austensibly in existence to educate continue to receive tax exempt status when they have money to blow on things like that?

Each school in the BIG is receiving millions in TV revenue each year and those hundreds of millions of dollars will get dumped into facilities that only a fraction of a percent of the student body actually gets any real benefit from (next to none of it educational) while the students walk away from the schools with ever increasing debt that is needed for the schools to continue doing their actual job.

You have students walking away from schools tens of thousands of dollars in debt while the athletic departments are lighting their cigars with Benjamins. They should be taxed as the semi pro teams they are now.

I don't have any problem with what you're saying here. No problem at all, especially if the money goes to the states where the schools reside in to help out where needed.
 
I don't have any problem with what you're saying here. No problem at all, especially if the money goes to the states where the schools reside in to help out where needed.
Calipari was just arguing a few weeks ago that their basketball facilities need updated again because they are falling behind. They just built their current one about a decade ago. At a certain point you are just spending money because you can.
 
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Calipari was just arguing a few weeks ago that their basketball facilities need updated again because they are falling behind. They just built their current one about a decade ago. At a certain point you are just spending money because you can.

You mean their $241 million facility?

 
College sports are going the way of the dodo bird. Do any of these people look at the demographics of who goes to big-time college and gross enrollment numbers? You need rabid alumni to sustain sports. We are past peak rabid alumni.
 
College sports are going the way of the dodo bird. Do any of these people look at the demographics of who goes to big-time college and gross enrollment numbers? You need rabid alumni to sustain sports. We are past peak rabid alumni.
Really interesting Coh. Obviously the goes is less important than the watches on tv but I wonder if what you write is true. I know I lost interest in college sports and haven't regained it. I used to be a rabid fan of cfb and b-ball.
 
College sports are going the way of the dodo bird. Do any of these people look at the demographics of who goes to big-time college and gross enrollment numbers? You need rabid alumni to sustain sports. We are past peak rabid alumni.
Aren't big time tv contracts replacing, well, butts in seats?
 
Could be. But you need butts in front of the TV too.

The first week last year had five games that had over five million viewers each and the regular season high was just under 16 million viewers for Ohio State/Michigan, which actually beat the SEC championship game.

People are watching college football.

 
Really interesting Coh. Obviously the goes is less important than the watches on tv but I wonder if what you write is true. I know I lost interest in college sports and haven't regained it. I used to be a rabid fan of cfb and b-ball.
Me too.

But I'm assuming the TV people have smart people who know these answers.

Plus, we are probably discounting how important legalized sports betting is to this. Gamblers LOVE them some CFB and CBB, and the United States has no shortage of them. Sure, they won't buy merch, but they'll gladly tune in to see if that backdoor cover can be averted.
 
Really interesting Coh. Obviously the goes is less important than the watches on tv but I wonder if what you write is true. I know I lost interest in college sports and haven't regained it. I used to be a rabid fan of cfb and b-ball.
I think the make-up of the student population is changing. That means less future alumni support. I also think spectator sports in general are trending down in popularity. But there are isolated pockets of high enthusiasm.
 
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