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Biden's Age

I cannot imagine the stress and sadness in watching that.
Yeah, it was rough. On one hand, it was just numbers on a spreadsheet. You say you're laying off 500, Mr. Plant Mgr,? Ok by what date? And did you meet your target? It came down to numbers on a spreadsheet and how those impacted my bottom-line I was responsible for. I hated it in a way. Because I understood the hundreds/thousands my program effected. But the thing was, we went to all those facilities and said, give me 10% back from your bottom line. You tell me how you're going to do it. And I'll hold you personally accountable for how you say you're going to meet it. Some of those deals were better procurement of TP and other disposables, to real letting go of employees. That's what I did. It was an existential crisis for the company. At the time, GM ,Chrysler, etc (customers of us) were all getting bail-outs. We were in just as precarious a position as they were at the time. I didn't dictate to anyone what they had to do. I just held them accountable for the 10% they promised me.
 
I'll give you a historical example... Woodrow Wilson VS Teddy Roosevelt.

Wilson won the presidency and had an American Only way of thinking which was why he was so slow to get into WWI.

Roosevelt understood how important and how powerful it is to be a force on the world stage.

Roosevelt probably gets us into the war a couple of years before and helps crush the Germans. More importantly Russia which was a democratic state isn't basically destroyed by the war....which allowed for the rise of Lenin and then Stalin (which is what happens when countries take heavy war tolls. The economy crumbles, people need scapegoats and dictators rise and overthrow the current govt).

That led to a century of cold war fears.

Worse yet having a weak and now communist Russia meant that instead of having strong European allies in the west and the east, we just had them in the west. Russia maybe doesn't break up into Poland, Ukraine etc and is the direct western neighbor of Germany.

We are then in a stronger position, with strong democratic allies surrounding it, to put down the Nazi uprising.

Teddy VS Wilson basically would have completely changed our life in the 20th century.

We need strong allies and we need world footprint of influence.

So instead of
Slow down, there, Tommy. There was nothing democratic about Russia in 1914. Various forces had been trying for a decade to liberalize the government and force a binding constitution on the Tsar, but they had failed. War or no war, it was only a matter of time before the radicals, who had been patiently waiting for this failure to play out, seized power.
 
Yeah, it was rough. On one hand, it was just numbers on a spreadsheet. You say you're laying off 500, Mr. Plant Mgr,? Ok by what date? And did you meet your target? It came down to numbers on a spreadsheet and how those impacted my bottom-line I was responsible for. I hated it in a way. Because I understood the hundreds/thousands my program effected. But the thing was, we went to all those facilities and said, give me 10% back from your bottom line. You tell me how you're going to do it. And I'll hold you personally accountable for how you say you're going to meet it. Some of those deals were better procurement of TP and other disposables, to real letting go of employees. That's what I did. It was an existential crisis for the company. At the time, GM ,Chrysler, etc (customers of us) were all getting bail-outs. We were in just as precarious a position as they were at the time. I didn't dictate to anyone what they had to do. I just held them accountable for the 10% they promised me.
That’s unbelievable. It’s people’s lives. It’s funny how connected we all are too. One of my partners in the manuf biz used to do all the workers comp claims for the Chrysler plant here. He knew the osha guy and got all the claims. One day he went to the division to settle about 75 cases. It amounted to more than half his income for the year. Lawyer for the other side pulled out a stay order from chrysler’s bankruptcy. My buddy lost most of his practice when the Chrysler plant closed. We still have 5 million square feet of vacant lot from it, and a shit ton of people who lost really good jobs. One of my best friends from high school.
 
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That’s unbelievable. It’s people’s lives. It’s funny how connected we all are too. One of my partners in the manuf biz used to do all the workers comp claims for the Chrysler plant here. He knew the osha guy and got all the claims. One day he went to the division to settle about 75 cases. It amounted to more than half his income for the year. Lawyer for the other side pulled out a stay order from chrysler’s bankruptcy. My buddy lost most of his practice when the Chrysler plant closed. We still have 5 million square feet of vacant lot from it, and a shit ton of people who lost really good jobs. One of my best friends from high school.
That sucks, man. Without sharing trade secrets, I can say the evolution of Chrysler to what they are now, as nothing more than basically a division of Fiat, has left a lot of victims in their wake.
 
Problem with resetting and wanting to put the genie back into the bottle is a tad moot. YOu first need to go back to looking at why there was a need to bring China onto the world stage or the trading platform to start with ie WTO.
Once China onboard, basically the dragon was unleashed but people either didn't expect it to grow and be so dominant. So either they miscalculated their reasons for pushing for China's entry into the WTO or they were naive or the greed of globalisation back then blinded them.

Now, let's look at it from China's perspective as of today: You asked us to join to world (trading) community so that everyone can play with the same rules. But now that we have a bigger seat on the big boy's table you are telling us that you say its all a crock (globalisation) and that free trade's really really bad?

Its the law of unintended consequences at play here. It's wanting your cake and eat it moment now. You need to look at this longitudinally.

One thing that has happened during the early 90s and now is that due to globalisation/trade we have had a more stable world due to its interconnectivity. We are forgetting the prosperity that was achieved through the last 25yrs. But not the other side of the coin is biting us and thus the isolationism, populism and the nationalism raging now.

Looking back what could have mitigated all this were in my view the widening income gap. So how or another, the 'con' (or don a term for the next generation of kids) was that if you provide the investor class and the corporations with lower tax trade and innovation would blossom.

No true.

Necessity is the mother of all innovation. Besides its not the large corporations that are the innovators. It's the startups.
And with all the tax cuts and budgetary cuts, as a result, to narrow the budgetary deficits, where are we now? Crumbling infrastructure, real income for the middle class hasn't grow in a decade and a ever grown federal debt.

You unleash another beast ... remember back in the 80s and early 90s, the evil scapegoat then was Japan?

More self-reflection is required.

There you go being an undercover spy for Chinese government again.;)
 
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That’s unbelievable. It’s people’s lives. It’s funny how connected we all are too. One of my partners in the manuf biz used to do all the workers comp claims for the Chrysler plant here. He knew the osha guy and got all the claims. One day he went to the division to settle about 75 cases. It amounted to more than half his income for the year. Lawyer for the other side pulled out a stay order from chrysler’s bankruptcy. My buddy lost most of his practice when the Chrysler plant closed. We still have 5 million square feet of vacant lot from it, and a shit ton of people who lost really good jobs. One of my best friends from high school.
Yeah one of the weird things about that time I outlined was that my supervisor was the former plant manager from the Martinsville, IN plant that had recently closed. He was fully into the plant closure phase that he and the company were in the midst of at that point, and I was completely open in terms of my own political thoughts about the situation. At that moment of time I was just going along with whatever my boss fed to me because i recognized that this was a big deal and I should probably toe the company line at that point.
 
Yeah one of the weird things about that time I outlined was that my supervisor was the former plant manager from the Martinsville, IN plant that had recently closed. He was fully into the plant closure phase that he and the company were in the midst of at that point, and I was completely open in terms of my own political thoughts about the situation. At that moment of time I was just going along with whatever my boss fed to me because i recognized that this was a big deal and I should probably toe the company line at that point.
Interesting stuff. What years would that have been?
 
Trust me there’s a lot of people who have trouble sleeping around the world with a moron, an idiot,with the IQ of a fifth grader in the Oval Office. And those are quotes from people who work with him. But as long as he can fool the stupid people...
Biden is a racist! it's an embarrassment!
 
Biden has issues. He has a history of two inter-cranial brain surgeries. It's not unreasonable to connect those dots. See also.
Seems like a waste of time, but it seems relevant to point out that your link provides no suggestion whatsoever that what Biden went through might lead to cognitive dysfunction thirty years later.

So, yes, it is unreasonable to connect those dots. Especially for someone like you, who has no expertise in the relevant field whatsoever.
 
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Actually it’s your problem. I talk to people who know more than me, I read stuff and I post. What you believe is not my concern.
No, it's a you problem. You have spent years posting like you are an expert in any number of fields. When people who actually know things about those subjects challenge you, you blow them off. It has created this image of yourself as someone who is too arrogant and too self-important to listen to what anyone else has to say, unless that person happens to be reinforcing what you already believe.

So when you say that you conferred with an expert, the natural response is, "Yeah, right."

You always complain about people making things about you instead of your content, but the fact is, you've brought that on yourself. No one here who is worth a salt - liberal or conservative - has any faith in anything you post, and that's because of how you've posted for years now. The only people who currently give you any currency are the local Trumpsters. I would imagine that should give you pause, but it probably doesn't.

In this thread (and others), you've made references to Biden's cognitive ability in relation to his brain surgeries thirty years ago. Faced with the inability of any of your fellow posters to find any sort of evidence whatsoever that such a connection is even reasonable, you're only response is, "I know a guy." There are very, very few posters here who command enough respect to have such a response carry any weight whatsoever. You are most assuredly not one of them.
 
No, it's a you problem. You have spent years posting like you are an expert in any number of fields. When people who actually know things about those subjects challenge you, you blow them off. It has created this image of yourself as someone who is too arrogant and too self-important to listen to what anyone else has to say, unless that person happens to be reinforcing what you already believe.

So when you say that you conferred with an expert, the natural response is, "Yeah, right."

You always complain about people making things about you instead of your content, but the fact is, you've brought that on yourself. No one here who is worth a salt - liberal or conservative - has any faith in anything you post, and that's because of how you've posted for years now. The only people who currently give you any currency are the local Trumpsters. I would imagine that should give you pause, but it probably doesn't.

In this thread (and others), you've made references to Biden's cognitive ability in relation to his brain surgeries thirty years ago. Faced with the inability of any of your fellow posters to find any sort of evidence whatsoever that such a connection is even reasonable, you're only response is, "I know a guy." There are very, very few posters here who command enough respect to have such a response carry any weight whatsoever. You are most assuredly not one of them.
He had an uncle...
 
Slow down, there, Tommy. There was nothing democratic about Russia in 1914. Various forces had been trying for a decade to liberalize the government and force a binding constitution on the Tsar, but they had failed. War or no war, it was only a matter of time before the radicals, who had been patiently waiting for this failure to play out, seized power.

I'm definitely not going to gamble anything on my knowledge of Russian history, but wasn't the Bolshaleviks much more democratic, free market friendly like the US?

I was always under the impression that it was WWI that severely compromised their economy to the point that not socialism but communism went from a radical idea to the economic choice led by Lenin?

Many feel that had the US got into the war earlier that we would have tipped the scales (Europe was in a stalemate) earlier than we did and possibly saved Russia from turning into the USSR.

Think about how radically our history would have changed had that been the case.

However it sounds like it was inevitable.

Interesting to ponder but to answer the question...we are stronger and safer when we have strong allies and we are a leading voice on the world's stage.

America First is becoming America Alone.
 
I don't see any evidence of any cognitive decline. People are looking for an excuse, any excuse to justify voting for Trump, and this is all they can come up with. Hillary was on her deathbed too, as I recall.
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I don't see evidence of any cognitive decline."

I believe you don't see it.
 
What about a guy who prepares a speech to read to the country on television on the Fourth of July and it comes out that George Washington secured the airports?

And once he had secured the ramparts (and the runways) he led a cavalry charge against the cancer-causing windmills. It was his duty to save all the birds the windmills were killing... He wasn't just George Washington, he was Don Quixote (tilting at windmills)...

This rant is in front of a very friendly Trump cultist group like Turning Point. Can you imagine if he says this nonsense in a debate? And some people think Biden has cognitive issues? LOL...

 
I'll give you a historical example... Woodrow Wilson VS Teddy Roosevelt.

Wilson won the presidency and had an American Only way of thinking which was why he was so slow to get into WWI.

Roosevelt understood how important and how powerful it is to be a force on the world stage.

Roosevelt probably gets us into the war a couple of years before and helps crush the Germans. More importantly Russia which was a democratic state isn't basically destroyed by the war....which allowed for the rise of Lenin and then Stalin (which is what happens when countries take heavy war tolls. The economy crumbles, people need scapegoats and dictators rise and overthrow the current govt).

That led to a century of cold war fears.

Worse yet having a weak and now communist Russia meant that instead of having strong European allies in the west and the east, we just had them in the west. Russia maybe doesn't break up into Poland, Ukraine etc and is the direct western neighbor of Germany.

We are then in a stronger position, with strong democratic allies surrounding it, to put down the Nazi uprising.

Teddy VS Wilson basically would have completely changed our life in the 20th century.

We need strong allies and we need world footprint of influence.

So instead of
Only squirrel and moose missing from this Fractured Fairy Tale.
'International jewry' (Bolshevism) declared world war on Germany about 1933.
 
I've read concerns about Biden's age in this thread as well as elsewhere. Yet, I have never seen anybody mentioning Trump's age.

So, I decided to check them myself, and this is what I have found:
Biden: 77
Trump: 74

The difference is 3 years or 3 1/2 at most if you take account their respective birthdays.
Do 3 years really make the difference?
Do the Democrats become senile earlier than the Republicans?

Educate me!
TIA

Three years can make a significant difference. Look at Reagan’s second term when there was a significant decline in his cognitive abilities.

I have been registered as an independent sine 1980 but I might register as a Democrat if I can volunteer for Biden’s campaign to make phone calls to help defeat Trump.
 
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Three years can make a significant difference. Look at Reagan’s second term when there was a significant decline in his cognitive abilities.

I have been registered as an independent sine 1980 but I might register as a Democrat if I can volunteer for Biden’s campaign to make phone calls to help defeat Trump.
I am thinking of doing the same.
 
Three years can make a significant difference. Look at Reagan’s second term when there was a significant decline in his cognitive abilities.

I have been registered as an independent sine 1980 but I might register as a Democrat if I can volunteer for Biden’s campaign to make phone calls to help defeat Trump.
Oh, I don't know. As far as I could tell, Reagan was Reagan during the 1st term as well as the 2nd.
 
I sailed across the Atlantic twice with someone from the state department who was involved with daily briefing for Reagan in his second term and Bush’s term. When asked he told me that they really had to manage their presentations as his second term progressed.
 
Just saw this video of Trump from yesterday. Thoughts? Seems like something was off with him...

 
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