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Biden and the border

Just saw on the news that the Haitians were completely gone from under the bridge and the Area cleaned up! Wonder where they went?
 
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Gestapo Joe is now Scapegoat Joe. His list of scapegoats that he needs to blame continues to grow.

1. Unmasked and un vax'd people are responsible for COVID
2. Border patrol is responsible for the border issues. At least Biden got to start a war. He loves war on American citizens.
3. Everything else is Trump gave it to him that way

 
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Seriously? Trump era levels? Biden has deliberately overwhelmed the system. ICE is stretched so thin we are closing checkpoints, giving illegal crossers a wave and a piece of paper, and got-a-ways are at record levels. I’m old enough to remember when the Democrats said a failure to increase services to keep up with need is tantamount to a cut.
observe....

 
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agree

but not the point
It's not like the people in the video were streaming unabated across the border. Basically it just shows masses of people wanting to enter the US. And water is wet.
 
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It's not like the people in the video were streaming unabated across the border. Basically it just shows masses of people wanting to enter the US. And water is wet.
to be sure there's plenty of that also. the vid is just one example....

in response to COH comment, yes, biden & co. have succeeded in continuing to make a huge clusterfvck of the whole border issue (among other things)

and yeah, water is wet
 
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The numbers are massive this year. 1.6 million already
Is that historically high? I'm honestly not sure how big a deal that is with so many unfilled jobs right now. Not enough crab pickers in Maryland right now.
 
So a lot of the wingers in this thread seem to want to have their cake and eat it too. Or maybe you guys just can't decide if its better politics to criticize Biden over treating Haitians more severely (the implied racism accusation of this tweet) or whether Biden is being unfair to the Border Patrol, who were just doing their job even if it includes whipping Black Haitians with horse reigns? Which if nothing else is horrible optics..

So which is it, because I'm pretty sure that folks on the left would criticize it as racism and abjectly unfair and different treatment of Black refugees vs the regular South/Central American migrants that regularly appear at the US border. Problem is if you decide to take the route the Tweet you posted takes, then that puts you at odds with other wingers in the thread, as well as both Abbott and even the Orange one himself, who both came out to defend the border patrol horse riders this past weekend. Abbott said he'd hire them to work for Texas, and Trump at his looney tunes rally in GA called them "heroes"...

So you posted the Tweet and apparently want to make the case that Biden is racist for allowing that to happen. Fine, that criticism has been made from plenty of folks on the left.

But Trump says the exact opposite, and says Biden is attacking "innocent agents" who are heroes. Now either the agents' actions are racist or they aren't. You seem to be saying they were, but Trump and others in the thread say otherwise.

So which side of the Pub critique are you playing? The claim that Biden's actions are racist, or the pretty blatantly racist endorsement of the agents' actions by Trump and Abbott in their zeal to attack Biden? Because the Tweet you posted is in direct contradiction to what Trump said at his Sat night rally in GA...



What about you 76? Wanna stick with this comment?... (the leftist critique)

"Can you imagine if Trump had sent "only" black males back to their country of origin or had the Border Patrol ride them down... 🤔

The word Hypocrisy doesn't do this justice"...

Or you gonna flip and agree with Trump who says the agents did nothing wrong? Can't have it both ways...
 
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So Biden turned 10-12,000 Haitians lose in the US to stop the bridge Drone coverage embarrassment.

Another large group is getting ready to start the caravan to the US.

Do Biden and the Democrats have a number in mind before they stop this?
 
So Biden turned 10-12,000 Haitians lose in the US to stop the bridge Drone coverage embarrassment.

Another large group is getting ready to start the caravan to the US.

Do Biden and the Democrats have a number in mind before they stop this?
No...
You can be sure they have a number in mind to "top" this... 🙉🙈

Open borders are good and all that...🙄😣

Let thousands of untested and unvaxed Illegal Aliens across (what used to be) the US border and then transport them to cities all across the country (on US taxpayers dime); In The Middle Of A Fvcking PANDEMIC...!!!!!!!!! What could possibly go wrong?????🙄😖

☠️☠️☠️Lambda Varient💀..., You're up.... ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

It's a win-win-win-win for the DNC faithful...: Gain more certain voters; get to maintain "control" of the general populace thru health and welfare mandates; create an even greater Need for the social welfare programs so dear to their heart; all while they kill off the over 60 crowd who often vote against them...(thru COVID and hospitals overwhelmed by it)...; while toasting to the whole human and economic disaster they've created with their pals over a long weekend in the Hamptons....,(and trade insider information about the progress of the next vaccine booster), while the world burns.....😣😡

The word Evil doesn't begin to cover it...
 
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No...
You can be sure they have a number in mind to "top" this... 🙉🙈

Open borders are good and all that...🙄😣

Let thousands of untested and unvaxed Illegal Aliens across (what used to be) the US border and then transport them to cities all across the country (on US taxpayers dime); In The Middle Of A Fvcking PANDEMIC...!!!!!!!!! What could possibly go wrong?????🙄😖

☠️☠️☠️Lambda Varient💀..., You're up.... ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

It's a win-win-win for the DNC faithful...: Gain more certain voters; get to maintain "control" of the general populace thru health and welfare mandates; create an even greater Need for the social welfare programs so dear to their heart; while they toast to the whole human and economic disaster they've created with their pals in th Hamptons.... ( and trade insider information about the progress of the next vaccine booster)...😣😡

it isn't true that all immigrants will someday vote Dem, as not all do now.

that said, if Pubs weren't so anti immigrant and anti working class, they wouldn't have that worry at all.

and don't kid yourselves Pubs, while most Pub voters may be anti immigrant, the Pub politicians they vote for en mass are very pro immigration, because that's what Wall St wants.

personally, i have no problem with attaching a say 20 yr moratorium on voting rights for all immigrants who don't go through the whole official process as set up, even if they do get granted citizenship on everything else, since giving something up, (voting rights), to get something far far greater in return, (permanent entry into the US, and permanent legality), seems a good tradeoff, if that would enable more immigrants to enter and be legal.

that said, while immigration very much benefits the professional and investor classes economically, it absolutely significantly hurts the working class economically.

that is very unfair to have the working class bear that burden solely on their own, while everyone else benefits.

therefore the working class should get something in return for immigration that helps all the other classes economically, like living minimum wages and medicare for all, if not also more pro US located manufacturing and service industry policies.

we ask why we are so divided on everything.

perhaps it's because everything has politically become so winner take all, with one sides gains coming at the expense of the other side.

it doesn't have to be that way, and the working class could/should get something significant in return for immigration that helps all the other classes economically but them, and significantly hurts them economically.

since so much of immigration backlash is a matter of who's ox has been and is being gored, take a lot of the "goring" part out of the equation, by openly balancing it out with equal pluses for the otherwise working class "gored", and publicly acknowledging that immigration hurts wages and job security for the working class, and therefore to offset the hurt, govt is giving the working class X benefits in return, to offset any losses. (living min wage, medicare for all, serious nationwide rent control).

winner take all at the expense of the loser, can only breed divide.

take the winner take all at the expense of the loser out of the equation, and you take a lot of the "divide" out with it.

Wall St doesn't like giving anything up, ever, even to get even more in return..

as long as Wall St can legally own the govt, doing away with winner take all at the expense of the loser on everything economic, can't ever go away.
 
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it isn't true that all immigrants will someday vote Dem, as not all do now.

that said, if Pubs weren't so anti immigrant and anti working class, they wouldn't have that worry at all.

and don't kid yourselves Pubs, while most Pub voters may be anti immigrant, the Pub politicians they vote for en mass are very pro immigration, because that's what Wall St wants.

personally, i have no problem with attaching a say 20 yr moratorium on voting rights for all immigrants who don't go through the whole official process as set up, even if they do get granted citizenship on everything else, since giving something up, (voting rights), to get something far far greater in return, (permanent entry into the US, and permanent legality), seems a good tradeoff, if that would enable more immigrants to enter and be legal.

that said, while immigration very much benefits the professional and investor classes economically, it absolutely significantly hurts the working class economically.

that is very unfair to have the working class bear that burden solely on their own, while everyone else benefits.

therefore the working class should get something in return for immigration that helps all the other classes economically, like living minimum wages and medicare for all, if not also more pro US located manufacturing and service industry policies.

we ask why we are so divided on everything.

perhaps it's because everything has politically become so winner take all, with one sides gains coming at the expense of the other side.

it doesn't have to be that way, and the working class could/should get something significant in return for immigration that helps all the other classes economically but them, and significantly hurts them economically.

since so much of immigration backlash is a matter of who's ox has been and is being gored, take a lot of the "goring" part out of the equation, by openly balancing it out with equal pluses for the otherwise working class "gored", and publicly acknowledging that immigration hurts wages and job security for the working class, and therefore to offset the hurt, govt is giving the working class X benefits in return, to offset any losses. (living min wage, medicare for all, serious nationwide rent control).

winner take all at the expense of the loser, can only breed divide.

take the winner take all at the expense of the loser out of the equation, and you take a lot of the "divide" out with it.

Wall St doesn't like giving anything up, ever, even to get even more in return..

as long as Wall St can legally own the govt, doing away with winner take all at the expense of the loser on everything economic, can't ever go away.
What you fail to comprehend is that what is happening on our southern boarder isn't immigration. The left misrepresents the entire issue with propaganda for political gain.
 
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From back in December but I wonder if this makes it into the bill. 3K-5K crossings a day are essentially freebees, after which

a “triggering mechanism” that would empower government agents to close the border to illegal aliens — oh, sorry, “migrants” and “asylum seekers.” Not surprisingly, Democrats do not want border closure triggered until 5,000 aliens have crossed. Republicans object to this, but led by Senator Thom Tillis, a North Carolina moderate, they have signaled they’d agree to 3,000 crossings a day.


That's some serious negotiation right there.
 
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From back in December but I wonder if this makes it into the bill. 3K-5K crossings a day are essentially freebees, after which

a “triggering mechanism” that would empower government agents to close the border to illegal aliens — oh, sorry, “migrants” and “asylum seekers.” Not surprisingly, Democrats do not want border closure triggered until 5,000 aliens have crossed. Republicans object to this, but led by Senator Thom Tillis, a North Carolina moderate, they have signaled they’d agree to 3,000 crossings a day.


That's some serious negotiation right there.

Speaking of negotiations, it doesn't make sense to me to mix the Ukraine war into what to date has been impossible for Congress to reform immigration laws along with providng the funding necessary to handle the problem.
 
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