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Bench Performance Improvement Noticed

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In Comments from Fansided

https://hoosierstateofmind.com/2022/11/11/indiana-basketball-bethune-cookman-6-takeaways/

“ …the bench is very fun to watch and this team as a whole looks like they’re playing together and for each other, which is a big difference from what we’ve seen since 2017.”

“The four bench unit players that could all be starters on other power conference teams combined for 35 points, 13 rebounds, seven assists, four steals, and five made three-pointers.

In the two games thus far this season, this bench unit is averaging 35.5 points, 12.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists, 4.0 steals, and 3.0 made threes. Compared to last season’s first two games, the first four guys off the bench averaged 20.0 points, 8.5 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 0.5 steals, and 2.5 made threes. That’s a significant improvement.”

In his first two collegiate games, Reneau is averaging 12.0 points, 4.5 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks. He’s shooting 71.4 percent from the field in 16.5 minutes per game off the bench. That’s pretty impressive for a freshman that’s playing behind the potential B1G Player of the Year.

At some point, does Reneau earn a spot alongside Trayce Jackson-Davis in the starting lineup? Plus/minus isn’t tracked too well in college basketball, but according to the Indiana basketball website, Reneau is +47 in his first two games, while Jackson-Davis is just +22 and Race Thompson is +24.

Through the first two games of his COLLEGE CAREER, Jalen Hood-Schifino leads all players in an Indiana basketball uniform in minutes (55), assists (12), free throw attempts (12), and steals (three). Along with that, Hood-Schifino has a plus/minus of +62, which is the best on the team through the first two games — next closest is Tamar Bates at +59.

The scoring will come for Hood-Schifino, but have fun watching this guy make the smartest decisions on offense and on the fast break as the Hoosiers look to have a whole lot of fun this season.
 
In Comments from Fansided

https://hoosierstateofmind.com/2022/11/11/indiana-basketball-bethune-cookman-6-takeaways/

“ …the bench is very fun to watch and this team as a whole looks like they’re playing together and for each other, which is a big difference from what we’ve seen since 2017.”

“The four bench unit players that could all be starters on other power conference teams combined for 35 points, 13 rebounds, seven assists, four steals, and five made three-pointers.

In the two games thus far this season, this bench unit is averaging 35.5 points, 12.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists, 4.0 steals, and 3.0 made threes. Compared to last season’s first two games, the first four guys off the bench averaged 20.0 points, 8.5 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 0.5 steals, and 2.5 made threes. That’s a significant improvement.”

In his first two collegiate games, Reneau is averaging 12.0 points, 4.5 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks. He’s shooting 71.4 percent from the field in 16.5 minutes per game off the bench. That’s pretty impressive for a freshman that’s playing behind the potential B1G Player of the Year.

At some point, does Reneau earn a spot alongside Trayce Jackson-Davis in the starting lineup? Plus/minus isn’t tracked too well in college basketball, but according to the Indiana basketball website, Reneau is +47 in his first two games, while Jackson-Davis is just +22 and Race Thompson is +24.

Through the first two games of his COLLEGE CAREER, Jalen Hood-Schifino leads all players in an Indiana basketball uniform in minutes (55), assists (12), free throw attempts (12), and steals (three). Along with that, Hood-Schifino has a plus/minus of +62, which is the best on the team through the first two games — next closest is Tamar Bates at +59.

The scoring will come for Hood-Schifino, but have fun watching this guy make the smartest decisions on offense and on the fast break as the Hoosiers look to have a whole lot of fun this season.
I think IU’s bench can lead a energy fueled beat down at Xavier
 
I’ll be glad to play Xavier for 2 reasons

1. To see how much better we are this season. Beating a team 85-49 in the non conference and everyone looking great doing so is an annual occurrence. Clearly we are better, and deeper, this is the first real game.

2. So that I can stop being confused by the posts using “X” at times to refer to Xavier the player and at other times Xavier the school.
 
In Comments from Fansided

https://hoosierstateofmind.com/2022/11/11/indiana-basketball-bethune-cookman-6-takeaways/

“ …the bench is very fun to watch and this team as a whole looks like they’re playing together and for each other, which is a big difference from what we’ve seen since 2017.”

“The four bench unit players that could all be starters on other power conference teams combined for 35 points, 13 rebounds, seven assists, four steals, and five made three-pointers.

In the two games thus far this season, this bench unit is averaging 35.5 points, 12.5 rebounds, 5.5 assists, 4.0 steals, and 3.0 made threes. Compared to last season’s first two games, the first four guys off the bench averaged 20.0 points, 8.5 rebounds, 5.0 assists, 0.5 steals, and 2.5 made threes. That’s a significant improvement.”

In his first two collegiate games, Reneau is averaging 12.0 points, 4.5 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks. He’s shooting 71.4 percent from the field in 16.5 minutes per game off the bench. That’s pretty impressive for a freshman that’s playing behind the potential B1G Player of the Year.

At some point, does Reneau earn a spot alongside Trayce Jackson-Davis in the starting lineup? Plus/minus isn’t tracked too well in college basketball, but according to the Indiana basketball website, Reneau is +47 in his first two games, while Jackson-Davis is just +22 and Race Thompson is +24.

Through the first two games of his COLLEGE CAREER, Jalen Hood-Schifino leads all players in an Indiana basketball uniform in minutes (55), assists (12), free throw attempts (12), and steals (three). Along with that, Hood-Schifino has a plus/minus of +62, which is the best on the team through the first two games — next closest is Tamar Bates at +59.

The scoring will come for Hood-Schifino, but have fun watching this guy make the smartest decisions on offense and on the fast break as the Hoosiers look to have a whole lot of fun this season.
AreMalik’s plus numbers a function of it playing against opponents starters?
 
Not surprised by the +/- numbers of Reneau,Bates and JHS since the starters in both games usually play equal or in the case of the first game, fall behind. 2nd unit comes in, gets us back on track and in case of JHS, played almost entire 1st half of 1st game due to X’s 2 fouls. Think the +/- stats will even out a little bit going forward but the excitement of this 2nd unit is palitable and may be our greatest asset
 
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Think the +/- stats
Are the dumbest stats in basketball .. especially when used to evaluate singular players. It's purpose is to evaluate lineup effectiveness.. but you have to know the opposing lineup also for it to mean anything.
 
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Are the dumbest stats in basketball .. especially when used to evaluate singular players. It's purpose is to evaluate lineup effectiveness.. but you have to know the opposing lineup also for it to mean anything.
Finally. The substitution of opposing teams matter. I got sick of saying it.
 
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Finally. The substitution of opposing teams matter. I got sick of saying it.
That stat carries way more importance than it's worth with some fans. Especially when used as a single game example as a way to evaluate a player. It's basically worthless in that manner.
 
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That stat carries way more importance than it's worth with some fans. Especially when used as a single game example as a way to evaluate a player. It's basically worthless in that manner.
Hopefully most teams second line won’t match up well with our second unit/line up.
 
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