Bazelak
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I've never seen bazelak play. More than anything, I think it's going to be the play calling and style of offense that determines how good he can be. Curious to see.
Besides mobility, I'm not sure I agree with what they said about O'Connell. Dude has ice in his veins. There isn't 36 QB's better than him.
It would be great for IUFB to have him live up to this ranking or be even better. I think IU will be better than most think they will be. IU should prove 2021 was an anomaly not the norm some think. Let's hope 2021 used up all the bad luck IU has for a few years and 2022 turns out to be a very good year for IUFB.
Starting scratch from 0 this season will bring out the best in all the QB's competing for starter and backup responsibilities. All have to feel equitable about where they stand. Bell running the room with strong leadership should help feed, satisfy and soothe egos through the competition.
I am excited what this young man can do behind center.
But just playing devil's advocate....
If he's so good... why did he lose his job at Mizzou? I get he was injured, but you typically don't lose the support of your HC because of an injury.
But just playing devil's advocate....
If he's so good... why did he lose his job at Mizzou? I get he was injured, but you typically don't lose the support of your HC because of an injury.
Not trying to come off as pessimistic, though that will probably be how this post is taken. It's absolutely ludicrous where they have AOC compared to Bazelak. I think at Bazelak's best he looks like he can absolutely be a top 20 QB in CFB, obviously it's no guarantee a QB reaches his peak(2021 Penix among many others). I have my doubts about whether Bell can actually get Bazelak to reach his ceiling given the talent around the QB. I would've probably had him in more of the 30-40 range. Average P5 starter, can make most throws, doesn't panic under pressure, but also won't flash off the screen or carry a team to 35 points against a far superior defense like MP did in 2021. I'm just hoping our offense is average in the B1G this year, if this team is going to seriously outperform expectations, they're going to do it because of the defense, not offense.
I hate PU as everyone else on this board does, so it really pains me to adamantly praise their QB but (barring injury) there are not going to be 36 QBs who will perform better than AOC next year. Whether it was a late career surge, the fact that he's playing against kids 6 years his junior, or Brohm's offense, AOC has shown he is a top 20 college QB. Idk how any board could seriously rank him 37 knowing he is playing under Brohm, a coach who if nothing else has shown he knows how to produce an elite passing offense. Especially when you look at PU's cakewalk of a schedule next season, it's insane to me how low they have him.
I hate PU as everyone else on this board does, so it really pains me to adamantly praise their QB but (barring injury) there are not going to be 36 QBs who will perform better than AOC next year. Whether it was a late career surge, the fact that he's playing against kids 6 years his junior, or Brohm's offense, AOC has shown he is a top 20 college QB. Idk how any board could seriously rank him 37 knowing he is playing under Brohm, a coach who if nothing else has shown he knows how to produce an elite passing offense. Especially when you look at PU's cakewalk of a schedule next season, it's insane to me how low they have him.
I hope Bazelak does well for you guys! I think he’s fairly talented. Not a fiery rah rah guy.
i haven't seen Williams play at all, so i can't comment on him.
but other than Williams, McCulley has not only far and away more athletic ability than the rest, but the most arm talent as well.
coaches want to talk about developing players, well here's their chance.
and like someone said above, i hope all get an equal shot. let the best man win.
but other than Williams, McCulley has not only far and away more athletic ability than the rest, but the most arm talent as well.
coaches want to talk about developing players, well here's their chance.
and like someone said above, i hope all get an equal shot. let the best man win.
Williams hasn’t played at all, which is why you haven’t seen him play. At all. McCulley was far more raw than they thought he was going to be, and I'm not sure he’ll ever take snaps unless we’re deep in the red zone or looking to run zone-read in specific downs and distances. Unfortunately, we took him and didn’t recruit some other guys, and they may bite us down the road.
Didn't McCulley switch positions?
i stand by what i said.
other than Williams, which i haven't seen at all, McCulley has not only the most athletic talent by far of the rest, but the most arm talent as well.
whether he puts it all together or not remains to be seen.
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McCulley switched to WR in the spring. Rumors are it was his choice.
I agree he has arm talent, Idk if his arm talent on it's own is better than Tuttle/Bazelak but he made some throws last season that showed a lot of promise as a QB. However if he is not playing QB and it seems as though it was his decision, or at the very least he welcomed the position change, he's not a part of the conversation, you're just going to have to accept that.
While he has the physical tools to get it done, QB is a mental game as much as it is physical, and McCulley definitely struggled w making reads last year. Not saying I would've given up on him as quickly as they did, he was a true freshman non early enrollee after all. But my point is that just having the physical traits needed to be a QB does not mean you will actually succeed. Frankly Tuttle has all the physical traits needed to succeed, that's why he was an elite 11 QB, it's his decision making that's the reason he's still fighting for a starting role at a bottom tier P5 school.
I think Tuttle was always overrated. The reports at Utah weren’t favorable at all early on, which is why they were okay with him leaving so quickly. We’ll need him this year.
I disagree with the notion that he was "overrated", he's obviously underperformed his rating and barring some miracle turnaround, that's not going to change. But rating is mostly based on physical tools, and that's really difficult with QBs because they're the only position(outside of maybe LB) that has to know everyone's job, you can be an elite thrower of the football and fail as a QB simply because you can't make reads in a timely manner. His HS tape fully checks out as a top 200 player, he consistently made elite level throws, but he was going against other high schoolers and often had all day to pick out receivers, but no one knows if a QB is going to pick up to the speed of P5 football until they actually get there.
Tuttle hasn't been under a good QB coach other than DeBoer when he first got here since being here. Don't judge QBs under Sheridan as he was a bad QB coach and I hope Bell is a good QB coach. Coming out of Spring it seemed based on coaching Bells talks it looks like Tuttle is a little head of Bazelak; this Summer and the Fall camp will tell who wins the job.
I think we're going to have a surprisingly good running game. But I will reserve all optimism until we beat Illinois in the first game.
Speaking of Purdue, they went 9-4 last season and beat the Vols in a thriller of a bowl game, led by their gritty QB. Let's first focus on being the best Big Ten team in the state.
Several things, he was just not ready, including technique of QBs and throwing issues. Ramsey bailed out too soon with little or no pressure as a So and JR, he always bailed out to the outside destroying OL blocks. DeBoer comes in and he corrects this so Ramsey doesn't do it anymore. Sheridan did a very good job scripting plays; he didn't adjust to changing defenses. Passing %s fell off each time Sheridan coached QBs, I could go on but these are a few issues. I think Sheridan can become a good coach, he was just pushed into the OC role too quickly.
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Sheridan suffers from the same syndrome DeBord suffered. They shine bright coaching solidly good talent(Penix, QB at Tenn., all the talent at Meatchicken). When talent doesn't reach that level they produce poor results. DeBord was lackluster at Bloomington. How hell could his protege produce any better? No wonder IUFB performs poorly when 2 of 3 OC's can't coach up mid level talent and the 1 who did shine was only in the fold for a single season. I always trust my eyes.
The easy schedule inflates his ranking. Not saying he is not good, just that a top 40 QB can look like top 20 with that schedule.
That was one of my biggest worries for iu for a couple years there. They kept losing coaches, which is fine, but it's hard to replace high level coaches with high level coaches every year.
Most have moved on to better jobs, which is a credit to Allen imo.
Hell yes and he has responded exactly as needed. That's leadership. Adjust according to your mistakes.
Damn surprised you even had to ask me the Q. You like to put posters on here in a scrutinized position. I refuse to fit there.
I didn't fire coach Sheridan, you asked why I didn't think he was a good QB coach. Stay on the topic; I did step in to change what my QB coach was teaching but as a public school coach I didn't have the luxury of firing and then hiring a better coach. I did call the offense and defense though, years I need to due to lack of coaching experience on the staff.
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Eh. Not sure it is quite the same. Moreso Brohm had kept getting it wrong and was trying to get it right.
McCulley has a very natural throwing motion, a big arm, and didn't seem that inaccurate.
athleticism and arm talent wise, he has by far the highest ceiling. (other than possibly Williams who we haven't seen).
as for the other aspects of the QB position, those absolutely are important as well.
but no one picks up those other aspects other than with reps, be they in practice or games.
and no one picks them up while playing WR.
and IU isn't going to be "game managed" into the success many here hope to eventually see.
would be great if DM picked things up sooner than later, but i'd rather see DM as a backup QB this yr than a starting WR, unless DM just doesn't want that.
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I’m on topic, was just wondering how seriously you took the criticism of fans who never attended a practice, meeting or game. Why couldn’t you let coaches go and get better ones? Plenty of other coaches do that all the time.
Because at many schools in Indiana the administration doesn't support letting coaches go. I had one principal that tried to make me play a fat out of shape OL man because he was a senior and his mother complained that as a senior he should play. I left that school soon after and got into a school much with much better athletes. I took that team to two 4A championships in 5 years despite the school never getting there before.
I don't find asking me about firing any coaches staying on topic about why I found coach Sheridan as not a very good QB coach. When are you going to let us know where you get the "inside" info you say you have.
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