And you thought Trump was bad...
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Ha, ha. Rape. Right. You're a real women's advocate. No doubt. Again, you've neglected to tell us what makes you think a reality star has any competency to be president. And as for who I think will win... A little more. It will be all about GOTV. Sadly, for old angry white men, they aren't the majority any more. In the 2012 election, a quarter of the voters were single females. Doubt that demographic will be trending for the Donald. Add Hispanics, Muslims, Catholics, and everyone else he has picked a fight with and he should have some difficulties. The only demographic that the Donald does well with is...you guessed it...old angry white men. But I'll give them this....they do vote.
They really don't. I mean, that's what they are for, but they've never actually filled that role, an they won't this year, either. Hillary is going to win pledged delegates by quite a lot.
@TheOriginalHappyGoat: oh bullshit. They were put in palce by Ted Kennedy because he was tired of party outsiders getting elected in 1972 and 1976. That's why they are weighted. A superdelegate is under no obligation to vote for his/her state's primary winner. Seriously, dude.
Furthermore, the reason Obama won in 2008 is because Hillary's superdelegates flipped to him as her popularity waned.
I'm also a vet. U.S. Marine Corps. Most people in the military agree with me. Hate to bring that up but you know it's true. Marines are glad to sacrifice for their country and the Corps. What pisses them off is watching their sacrifices thrown away by some ignorant little politician who's looking after himself rather than the strategic success of the mission.
I can't believe there are people who can look at South Korea and Japan and still make a dumb statement like that.
I understand why they are there. I'm saying, since they've been implemented, the candidate with the most pledged delegates has still won the nomination every time. And the same thing will happen this year. Sanders will not overtake Clinton in pledged delegates.
And in 2008, Obama also had more pledged delegates. It was very close, of course, but he did have more.
Look, I think the superdelegate is a disaster waiting to happen. If a candidate ever heads into the convention with a majority of pledged delegates, but loses because the superdelegates mostly vote for someone else, that's going to be a crisis that the party may not survive. But that's not going to happen this year. Hillary is going to win among both pledged and unpledged delegates.
@IUT: get your facts straight. Bush gutted our benefits while cutting the taxes on the wealthy 3 times. Look it up. Barry has spent 8 years rebuilding the VA and Bush underfunded it year after year.
Don't come on here and lie, man. You should be ashamed that you support politicians that screw over vets. Pathetic.
Don't come on here and lie, man. You should be ashamed that you support politicians that screw over vets. Pathetic.
@TheOriginalHappyGoat: the fact they were put in place is enough for me. They are undemocratic. Just another method for the elite to maintain control.
Nothing that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Boxer or Feinstein has said or done during this primary makes me want to be a part of that party anymore. I do not feel like the DNC has represented me since 1992 and I do not see that changing. For me, this year was about changing the status quo. The DNC doesn't want that to happen.
Nothing that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, Boxer or Feinstein has said or done during this primary makes me want to be a part of that party anymore. I do not feel like the DNC has represented me since 1992 and I do not see that changing. For me, this year was about changing the status quo. The DNC doesn't want that to happen.
That's fine. You don't like the DNC. I get it. I'm just saying, the idea that they are stealing the election for Hillary is a false narrative. Hillary is going to win because, believe it or not, she's extremely popular among Democrats, and Bernie was unable to make enough inroads among certain key constituencies (primarily black voters) to counter her popularity.
@TheOriginalHappyGoat: so all the irregularities that are happening all the country in Democratic primaries are not stealing the election. Ok. That's your opinion, just like it is my opinion Hillary and the DNC are nefarious snakes that will stop at nothing to keep an outsider out. But neither of us can prove that something is or isn't going on. Not like the USA has been a beacon of fraud free elections over the last 16 years.
I haven't seen any legitimate claims of fraud by either side. When Bernie wins a caucus, Hillary supporters claim he gamed the system. When Hillary wins a primary, Bernie supporters claim she gamed the system. I haven't seen any of those claims by either party backed up by any genuine evidence.
Ooooohm. Oooooohm. Ooooooohm. < Buddhist meditation chant. You're losing your zen.
@whobop: against a guy that betrays his brothers-in-arms by voting for assholes that send our troops to war, but doesn't want to pay for their medical bills? You bet there are no positive vibes there. I volunteered at the VA for years. I can give example after example how the veterans have been dicked over by Republicans.
If you are pro-GOP, you are anti-veteran. If you are anti-veteran **** off and die.
If you are pro-GOP, you are anti-veteran. If you are anti-veteran **** off and die.
I was just giving you a hard time. And thank you for your service. You're a better man than I am
So, she trails Bill but at least is way ahead of C-$?
Hillary has several million more actual votes than Bernie, that's why she's going to win. I agree that supers are very undemocratic, but until they actually overturn the popular vote they are really irrelevant. Them throwing the nomination to Bernie right now would be the real subversion of voter will.
I dunno. Gennifer Flowers was quoted a couple of years ago saying, "He (Bill) said that Hillary had eaten more (redacted) than he had."
So who knows? Not that it matters.
Winning hearts and minds. They took the phrase "hearts and minds" which was originally from the bible and applied it to modern warfare. Whomever used it first for Vietnam was a C-$ level idiot. (LBJ) It's never worked, and it never will. Getting military strategy from a mythological book is about asinine.
He's never taken a goat down a path it wasn't already willing to go ....
