5 coaches to keep on the radar
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I would take a hard look at ANY coach that fits the following criteria
1. Has won at a high level versus his peers. Conference championships, success in national tournaments...they need to have shown both of these things.
2. Has recruited well versus his peers. There are quite a lot of fairly easy ways to evaluate this. If you're evaluating a D2/NAIA/D3 coach, do some research on offers their players had coming out of high school, what level of transfer players did they get, etc... If its D1, who did they beat out for their recruits. And then for a coach at any level, were they able to find "diamonds in the rough" type kids?
3. Runs a more up tempo, perimeter focused, offense. This is the style that will attract the most talent. Obviously you can win playing slower paced stuff... Tony Bennett proves that. The current Drake coach was very successful at the D2 level, and appears like he will be at Drake as well, but he runs a fairly methodical and slow offense. I think IU should actively look for something different, that appeals to basically ALL potential recruits. Again, criteria number 1 will have had to have been established, so I'm not asking for style OVER substance...I'm asking for style AND substance.
4. Has a personality that will fit the job. IU coach should be able to navigate all the media, speaking gigs, etc... that being an IU coach involves.
Basically...proven good basketball coach, dynamic personality, good recruiter, stylistically appeals to the masses.
Just to think outside the box, would asking Cignetti if he knows a guy be of any value?
Yeah, I've seen so many good coaches not make it at high major D1 because I'm guessing it's just tough to balance all the demands with recruits and their families/advisors, boosters, NCAA, as well as the athletic department, academics, etc... It's one of the things I love about Cignetti. He seems much more like a CEO than a rah-rah coach. I think that approach, while still having some charisma and personality would be wise to seek out too.
Honestly, I don't think there'd be anything "wrong" with Dolson picking Cignetti's brain. But Head Basketball Coach is a very different job than Head Football Coach. Its MUCH more personal, much more of a direct coach to player position than football is. Football coaches, more than bball, are like CEO's. They have to manage their coordinators as much as anything.
Yes, but he might have said the former JMU bball coach that took the Vandy job, Byington.
JMU really had it going on the last couple of years!
Per my other post...BBall coaches HAVE to be much more personal than FBall coaches do. The CEO approach is fine, as long as it isn't a hands off approach with the players. Cignetti is a detail and processes guy, so I'm sure he's very involved down at the field level with many of the players. But a Fball coach has too big of staffs, too many players, to dig in and be involved with all his players. BBall, they basically have to be.
What's his name, Josh Schertz? I really liked what I read about him last year. Surprised he would go to St Louis from ISU but know they have $$, so they decided to pay up I guess. Still, definitely a name I'd keep an eye on. Checked their schedule and they're 4-2, basically beating the teams they should and losing to who you'd expect. Be a better indicator when they get in conference.
Would LOVE him...but when his name has been mentioned for other big jobs the last couple years, most of the talk is he's an ISU lifer. Wife from there, family happy there, etc...
Funny how that can change when you add some zeroes to the ole pay check though.
Ben McCollom wins. Google him.
Maybe Paternack is worth a look, but he is not winning consistently enough at UCSB.
The rest look pretty average.
Only thing I worry about with McCollom is his style of play is a little bit slower/more methodical, apparently. Obviously it looks like he wins despite that, but it would worry me a little, from a recruiting standpoint.
I wouldn't want IU to ever consider a guy like Tony Bennett, as an example.
I have Iowa State season tickets since his first year, and he has not disappointed. And yes, his wife is an ISU WBB alum. He may be content staying at ISU
Hard to envision someone being higher on my wish list than him. But again, I get the feeling he'll stay at ISU.
I'd even have him above some of the recent dream candidates like Stevens and Donovan. Mainly because we KNOW he can navigate current Cbball dynamics and win at a high level.
That is a very good analysis and I see your point. If my memory is correct Purdue’s Gene Keady was a football player who ended up coaching Basketball.
The comparison to college football that I would make, you have to have a strong personality that you can set the culture you want with. Then the staff becomes very important. After the last 2 years it's pretty obvious that copying UConn with that would be smart. I think Mr Yonkman will want Pearl.
The Archie Miller era scares the shit out of me, but hiring an up and coming mid major coach may be the best route.
Woodson isn’t going anywhere.
Hopefully Scott understands why Archie didn't work and how to avoid that next time if we go the mid-major route.
Find somebody with more personality than a dishrag?
It doesn't always change. Look at Few, I would bet he has lots of zeros thrown at him, hasn't moved!
Yes season by season improvement. He will do well there after the first three seasons. Watch.
Ben McCollom... 43 years old from Iowa City Iowa has coached for 21 years...
401-91 .815 winning percentage.. 4x Division 2 Champs 5 time coach of the year. First year at Drake 6-0 let's keep a eye on this guy...
401-91 .815 winning percentage.. 4x Division 2 Champs 5 time coach of the year. First year at Drake 6-0 let's keep a eye on this guy...
I agree with what you posted elsewhere that there are reasonable candidates. If you accept that unlikely to be an elite coach at a currently elite program, and so almost certainly from the ranks of mid majors, then I don’t believe possible to completely eliminate post hire performance risk. But, my calculations show that we have now used up our entire quota of bad luck (post RMK) and the next hire will be a full court three pointer.
Yeah, early season. His history shows a little slower pace. But obviously he's allowed to evolve. And to be honest, I haven't really looked in to him enough to know where his D2 team stacked up against the rest of the teams in their conference, nationally, etc... Might have been a situation like some have in the B10.
Definitely a guy to keep a very close eye on, I'm sure Dolson is. Read that the Iowa job is pretty important to him. Lets home the Franiac coaches for a handful more years, if that's true. Whether he's at IU or not, I don't want someone that could be that good, to be somewhere else in the B10 either.
Don't really want someone who has ambitions to be somewhere else eventually. IU should be a destination job for a coach.
I bet RMK would have loved the OSU job, but wasn't the right time. I bet Dusty May would have loved the IU job, but it wasn't the right time (actually it was). I bet Brad Stevens would have liked the IU job, but it wasn't the right time (actually it was). Thad Matta probably wanted the IU job back in day pre OSU, but it wasn't the right time (actually it was).
I know we aren't the IU brand of old, but still confident an Indiana job would make him quickly forget Iowa.
One would think. Especially if he is as good as he appears to be. IU's fanbase is so starved, at this point, for a basketball program that we can be excited for, and proud of, that his bar for being very popular and accepted at IU, is about as low as its ever been.
The field of 68 guys was talking about IU and said we should snap him up because someone else will.
