12 million for the taylor family

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not sure what to think, she was involved in a drug syndicate, didn't deserve to die the way she did, hopefully the family will re-invest the money in her community.
 
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not sure what to think, she was involved in a drug syndicate, didn't deserve to die the way she did, hopefully the family will re-invest the money in her community.
It would be nice if they did, but I highly doubt they do. Many areas in Louisville are rough, hence I rarely cross the bridge. I’m surprised the family settled for so little?
 

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not sure what to think, she was involved in a drug syndicate, didn't deserve to die the way she did, hopefully the family will re-invest the money in her community.
Breonna Taylor was involved in a drug syndicate? From what I've read, there's no evidence to support any allegation that she was . . . and the fact that the police tried to get a defendant in another crime to finger her for being part of a drug syndicate might be why the settlement was for far more than the total amount of her future earnings potential might have been, much less the present value of those earnings.

 
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Still didn't deserve what happened to her. (not sure there's any evidence of her being on drugs either)
 

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Still didn't deserve what happened to her. (not sure there's any evidence of her being on drugs either)
Well she clearly knew her bf was a drug dealer and she was living with him so let's not act like she was completely innocent.
 

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Well she clearly knew her bf was a drug dealer and she was living with him so let's not act like she was completely innocent.
Soooo . . . guilty by association?

Where's your cite to the applicable law for that proposition?
 

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not sure what to think, she was involved in a drug syndicate, didn't deserve to die the way she did, hopefully the family will re-invest the money in her community.
That would be good. I just hope they get good advice and guidance with the money, and not turn out like so many lottery winners or pro athletes do, blowing through the windfall.
 

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That would be good. I just hope they get good advice and guidance with the money, and not turn out like so many lottery winners or pro athletes do, blowing through the windfall.
I wonder how much of a cut Crump will take.
 

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She didn't deserve to die, clearly. But as my parents taught me since the cradle "if you play with matches you might get burned."
The boyfriend she was with the night/morning she was shot by the police wasn't a drug dealer.

So which matches legitimately burned Taylor?
 
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some idiot on the news was interviewed and questioned what a black woman's life was worth, then went on to say she would have more than 12 million in her lifetime
 

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The boyfriend she was with the night/morning she was shot by the police wasn't a drug dealer.

So which matches legitimately burned Taylor?
According to a recent article the police recorded the exboyfriend talking on a phone in the jail where he is telling someone else that BT was holding his money for him. Whether she knew where the money came from is anyone’s guess but more than likely since he implied it was not the first time she had to have known. And I feel the same she should not have killed.
 

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whatever the state allows. 33 1/3 i suspect unless he filed. then 40% or whatever. that dude's got a good niche practice cookin. anyway no kids so if it's like most states the money goes to the parents. i'd rather have my kid than 8 mil
I'd take the 8 mil over your kid.
 

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for the attorneys on here i don't see the benefits of settling now, i don't see it stopping the unrest, so what's the benefit of doing this now?
 

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Breonna Taylor was involved in a drug syndicate? From what I've read, there's no evidence to support any allegation that she was . . . and the fact that the police tried to get a defendant in another crime to finger her for being part of a drug syndicate might be why the settlement was for far more than the total amount of her future earnings potential might have been, much less the present value of those earnings.

Well she clearly knew her bf was a drug dealer and she was living with him so let's not act like she was completely innocent.
Ex boyfriend. And his dealing is why he is an ex.
The boyfriend she was with the night/morning she was shot by the police wasn't a drug dealer.

So which matches legitimately burned Taylor?
Not that facts matter, but ...

The local word is/has been that this matter involved 2 of Taykor's boyfriends - one current and one ex - who were both were targets of drug investigations.

The "no knock" warrant that produced the shooting at Taylor's apartment was supported, in part, by affidavit testimony from a police officer which included a claim that the ex had been seen leaving the apartment with mail packages, as recently as January, and that the cops believed he might still be getting stuff mailed there.

AFTER the incident, a postal inspector (who was not part of the drug investigation agency or the investigation) was interviewed to see if his agency had noticed any suspicious packages being delivered to Taylor's apartment. He was quoted as saying "no." (UPS and FedEx have not commented publicly to my knowledge, but I have heard on the sly that they also said "No - we don't knowingly deliver drugs either.")

The raid/execution of the no-knock warrant at Taylor's apartment occurred AFTER the ex was arrested in the afternoon. His arrest was based on another warrant sought/received at the same time from the same judge as the "no-knocker" directed at Taylor's apartment, all as part of the same investigation, etc. (There were multiple raids in multiple places that day/evening/night - all related.)

The current boyfriend was staying at Taylor's when the raid occured, but his activities were apparently NOT part of the support for underlying warrant. I might be wrong about that - I know folks who read the warrants/affidavits - I did not.) While nobody is sure who fired first, it is known that his gun fired a bullet that hit a cop, who survived.

The FBI ballistics report was delivered to the Kentucky Attorney General this past weekend. It may have better info but the local word has always been that 8 cops fired 22 shots, some of which went through apartment walls into adjoing apartments. I have heard different numbers for how many shots Taylor. The early reports were 8. One recent report was as low as 3. I tend to believe the 8, but do not care. She died no matter how many times she was shot.

The ex was tape recorded while in jail, talking with another girl who he wanted to bail him out. His told that person that Taylor had been holding money for him, but was dead and he could not get it. He aslo said she had some money belonging to others. He did no SAY it was all drug money, but that is the impression Louisville Police clearly tried to leave by releasing the tapes.

At the end of the day, even if she was hanging with 2 drug dealers, she didn't deserve to die, but no-knock warrants are dangerous tools, and the worst case scenario occured.

The character assasination game was not only aimed at Taylor - dirt also was released about one of the cops, who had apparently been under recent investigations. One of the allegations was that he would show up at bars and "escort" young pretty drunk girls home, but try and get some sex on the way.

The cops were suspended a long time ago.

The Police Chief was "forced" into retirement a long time ago.

Through legislation passed by the Louisville Metro Council, the Louisville cops (city and county, which are merged) cannot use no-knock warrants any more.

Presumably, state cops and local feds can.

(In fact, the FBI used one a couple of weeks ago in Bardstown, investigating a 5 year old murder. It is one of several unsolved murders there - which locals say are likely related to each other and also drug related. A state police drug task force officer was executed on an interstate ramp one night. Someone blocked the road with limbs. When he got out to clear it off the road, he was shot multiple times with multiple guns. A teacher and her daughter were tied up and executed in their home. A young women went missing and her father was shot as he was out hunting on his farm. Weird.)

There is legislation already filed and waiting for action in the state assembly to expand the no-knock ban.

Rand Paul has been active in Louisville for years, working to restore rights of felons, etc, and has (I think) proposed federal legislation banning no-knocks. Not sure - don't hold me to it.

And Taylor's family has gotten paid and gotten Louisville Metro government to promise reforms to fight police brutality.

Meanwhile, downtown Louisville is a ghost town - boarded up. Big companies and banks moving out. Small business and restaurants closed. Employees afraid to be there.

And that's the report from Lake Woe-be-gone, where everything is well below average in 2020.

I return you to your regular Cooler programming. Enjoy the selective rage!
 

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Breonna Taylor was involved in a drug syndicate? From what I've read, there's no evidence to support any allegation that she was . . . and the fact that the police tried to get a defendant in another crime to finger her for being part of a drug syndicate might be why the settlement was for far more than the total amount of her future earnings potential might have been, much less the present value of those earnings.

CJ did a good job fact checking most of the major points and rumors

 

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for the attorneys on here i don't see the benefits of settling now, i don't see it stopping the unrest, so what's the benefit of doing this now?
nothing to do with the unrest other than the pr value of the settlement which is huge. . wrongful death suit. only duty owed is to the parents. no kids. loss of consortium etc. under normal circumstances you're stuck at whatever the insurance policy is. if it was a company defendant maybe you'd get a couple mil. at best. 12 mil is massive result. massive. 12 mil on the table you don't turn that down. the only reason it's that huge is because it's a national story. a 27 year old black person with no kids and her job isn't worth more than 2 mil. sad there's a calculus to it; but there is.
 
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nothing to do with the unrest. wrongful death suit. only duty owed is to the parents. no kids. loss of consortium etc. under normal circumstances you're stuck at whatever the insurance policy is. if it was a company defendant maybe you'd get a couple mil. at best. 12 mil is massive result. massive. 12 mil on the table you don't turn that down. the only reason it's that huge is because it's a national story. a 27 year old black person with no kids and her job isn't worth more than 2 mil. sad there's a calculus to it; but there is.
they broke it down insurance paying 5 mil was 2 mil in a set aside fund for lawsuits, 5 million from the general fund, taxpayers are going to pay out the ass in lost services. that's why i don't understand doing this now before there has been a criminal indictment. looks political to me i think mayor fisher made a bad bet on this one, he is cooked
 

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they broke it down insurance paying 5 mil was 2 mil in a set aside fund for lawsuits, 5 million from the general fund, taxpayers are going to pay out the ass in lost services. that's why i don't understand doing this now before there has been a criminal indictment. looks political to me i think mayor fisher made a bad bet on this one, he is cooked
it's political. they're F"d because it has so much national attention. the break down is common. cities are usually self-funded to x amount and have insurance to x amount
 
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Please, please, please say you aren't an IU grad.
UK has a board that better fits the ideology of people like him.

 

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CJ did a good job fact checking most of the major points and rumors

I wouldn’t bet much on the CJ getting lots right.

They used to be a great paper.

Now they are just another political hack trying to tweet something first.
 
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According to a recent article the police recorded the exboyfriend talking on a phone in the jail where he is telling someone else that BT was holding his money for him. Whether she knew where the money came from is anyone’s guess but more than likely since he implied it was not the first time she had to have known. And I feel the same she should not have killed.
Is that evidence? Sounds like textbook hearsay to me.
 

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Maybe it is, but all that would mean is that it's inadmissible in court, right? Is there any reason they couldn't have used it for establishing probable cause?
You’re an authority on everything else why not this?