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0 made 3s plus 10 missed FTs plus Rebounds

So we have three decent to fairly good 3 point shooters in Mgbako, Leal, and Gunn and not one time is a play run to get them a shot until the end for MM. Ridiculous. And Gunn doesn’t even see the floor.
 
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The FT shooting with IU has been an issue for a few years now. You can actually teach FT shooting. Need to spend time on it and practice. Case in point Uwe Blab, absoultely terrible at the FT line. Last year he was there 70-some percent (75?). He was coached on how to get better.
 
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So we have three decent to fairly good 3 point shooters in Mgbako, Leal, and Gunn and not one time is a play run to get them a shot until the end for MM. Ridiculous. And Gunn doesn’t even see the floor.
Galloway shot 47.5% last year.
 
So we have three decent to fairly good 3 point shooters in Mgbako, Leal, and Gunn and not one time is a play run to get them a shot until the end for MM. Ridiculous. And Gunn doesn’t even see the floor.
The goal is for them to create their own three point shot after our post passes late out of double with the shot clock winding down.
 
Don’t the Board of Trustees have major input into coaching hires. The last 4 coaching hires have been a disaster. In a basketball crazy state with the built in recruiting advantages this is malpractice. Who are the responsible parties and why do they still have a job?
Whacko loon admin.
 
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Good. Lets hope it happens fast! Only way out of this mess unfortunately. Unless you want to enjoy. 13-18 7-13 team next year. If that were to happen, I'd rather it be with someone new worth a damn and would improve on it.
I don't envision anything changing for next season. I have no idea what the terms of Woody's contract is. Frankly, we need stability and a true X's and O's coach. It's no longer much about development as much as it is about NIL, style of play and ultimately winning. Our freaking high water mark since 2016 and past 7 seasons is making the tournament and getting bounced in the first weekend. And that happened in year 7 of the 7 year stretch. Programs such as Purdue and Wiscy are models of consistency, construction of teams that fit a program and scheme. Our model is go find the best players we can, swing for fences on guards and miss, and then try and put all the ingredients together and try and make it work. Well, it doesn't work. And it's compounded when there is inadequate coaching. We have real issues. It all started when we lost JHS and lost on guards to replace him. Compounded by injury to Newton. However, who knows how good he even is? Regardless, Woody took some big swings with recruits and whiffed. We currently have nothing coming outside of Liam for next season and the play is a huge portal haul. In my opinion, this is very risky but will see how it plays out. It certainly did not play out well for us this season.
 
The FT shooting with IU has been an issue for a few years now. You can actually teach FT shooting. Need to spend time on it and practice. Case in point Uwe Blab, absoultely terrible at the FT line. Last year he was there 70-some percent (75?). He was coached on how to get better.
And yet, by the time his four year career was coming to an end, Quinn Buckner still shot forty something percent.
 
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I don't envision anything changing for next season. I have no idea what the terms of Woody's contract is. Frankly, we need stability and a true X's and O's coach. It's no longer much about development as much as it is about NIL, style of play and ultimately winning. Our freaking high water mark since 2016 and past 7 seasons is making the tournament and getting bounced in the first weekend. And that happened in year 7 of the 7 year stretch. Programs such as Purdue and Wiscy are models of consistency, construction of teams that fit a program and scheme. Our model is go find the best players we can, swing for fences on guards and miss, and then try and put all the ingredients together and try and make it work. Well, it doesn't work. And it's compounded when there is inadequate coaching. We have real issues. It all started when we lost JHS and lost on guards to replace him. Compounded by injury to Newton. However, who knows how good he even is? Regardless, Woody took some big swings with recruits and whiffed. We currently have nothing coming outside of Liam for next season and the play is a huge portal haul. In my opinion, this is very risky but will see how it plays out. It certainly did not play out well for us this season.
I agree, I doubt a coach change in 2024.
I don't think Woodson wants to retire as being unsuccessful at IU. Do you think the admin is waiting to name Colbert or Hulls as the nextHC?
 
I don't envision anything changing for next season. I have no idea what the terms of Woody's contract is. Frankly, we need stability and a true X's and O's coach. It's no longer much about development as much as it is about NIL, style of play and ultimately winning. Our freaking high water mark since 2016 and past 7 seasons is making the tournament and getting bounced in the first weekend. And that happened in year 7 of the 7 year stretch. Programs such as Purdue and Wiscy are models of consistency, construction of teams that fit a program and scheme. Our model is go find the best players we can, swing for fences on guards and miss, and then try and put all the ingredients together and try and make it work. Well, it doesn't work. And it's compounded when there is inadequate coaching. We have real issues. It all started when we lost JHS and lost on guards to replace him. Compounded by injury to Newton. However, who knows how good he even is? Regardless, Woody took some big swings with recruits and whiffed. We currently have nothing coming outside of Liam for next season and the play is a huge portal haul. In my opinion, this is very risky but will see how it plays out. It certainly did not play out well for us this season.
It's hard for me to say this.
But who really wants to come here and play for Woodson ?
Like if I'm in the portal...Bloomington Ind. Is waaay down on the list..
 
I agree, I doubt a coach change in 2024.
I don't think Woodson wants to retire as being unsuccessful at IU. Do you think the admin is waiting to name Colbert or Hulls as the nextHC?
I have no idea what they are thinking / wanting. I just know that we have had a turnstyle of coaches since Knight left. Our best coach / hire (Sampson) effed it all up and it’s been a constant revolving door since. In t he 24 years / seasons since Knight was fired, we have had 5 head coaches and 2 interim coaches. One interim (Davis) becoming HC and the other, Dakich, being a bridge to Crean. Consider from 1939 to 2000, a span of 61 seasons, we have had 3 coaches. In the last 24, we have had 5. It appears to me we have AD / Admin / BOT issues when it comes to hiring coaches for big time sports. Same issue with football. They are incompetent.
 
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If You can't make 3's and are trying to live exclusively on inside play, You better get the other team in foul trouble and hit 80% of your free throws. Hit 65%. Of the 10 misses, Johnson and Renau had 9 of them. When your supposed top players can't hit free throws You can't win.
 
Don’t the Board of Trustees have major input into coaching hires. The last 4 coaching hires have been a disaster. In a basketball crazy state with the built in recruiting advantages this is malpractice. Who are the responsible parties and why do they still have a job?
I would hope no? It's the AD's job to interview candidates and hire head coaches. Maybe because the FB and BB coaches are the highest paid positions in the university, the Trustees have some sort of approval, but if they are driving the process and dictating to the AD who to hire, then the AD isn't really an AD, and the trustees would be stepping outside their role. Same as when President Herbert made the decision to hire Sampson. It was outside his role to do that and the result was a disaster. If the coaches are not performing, what should happen is that the AD is replaced with someone who knows how to find better coaches, not the President or Trustees taking over the AD's job. WTF do most or any of them know about sports or hiring coaches?
 
I would hope no? It's the AD's job to interview candidates and hire head coaches. Maybe because the FB and BB coaches are the highest paid positions in the university, the Trustees have some sort of approval, but if they are driving the process and dictating to the AD who to hire, then the AD isn't really an AD, and the trustees would be stepping outside their role. Same as when President Herbert made the decision to hire Sampson. It was outside his role to do that and the result was a disaster. If the coaches are not performing, what should happen is that the AD is replaced with someone who knows how to find better coaches, not the President or Trustees taking over the AD's job. WTF do most or any of them know about sports or hiring coaches?
My guess is there's literally no one on the BOT that knows as much (or as passionate) about basketball as 95% of the posters here. I think we all know the 5% here who are totally clueless - hard telling what kinds of clowns they'd hire.
 
Don’t the Board of Trustees have major input into coaching hires. The last 4 coaching hires have been a disaster. In a basketball crazy state with the built in recruiting advantages this is malpractice. Who are the responsible parties and why do they still have a job?
Quinn hired woodson.
 
Indiana State is #1 in the nation in 3pt%… this has absolutely everything to do with coaching and recruiting. Woody is a flat-out bust. Another one.

And get the f-ing nepotism out of the program!!! Why is Buckner pushing his buddies on Dolson!
 
Indiana State is #1 in the nation in 3pt%… this has absolutely everything to do with coaching and recruiting. Woody is a flat-out bust. Another one.

And get the f-ing nepotism out of the program!!! Why is Buckner pushing his buddies on Dolson!
This is the problem with Dolson. He has to run a search and keep the external politics and influences out of it. The only goal is the best candidate.

Scott learned what he knows about being AD from other bad ADs at IU. He’s always been at IU and IU has been bad for 30 years. He doesn’t know any better. And guess what, he let the external influences in, bought into the “IU guy” thing (no evidence this was an advantage), and he even went so far as to take a massive gamble on an NBA-only coach with the stupid Thad Matta structure that was abandoned after a year. I mean he totally tried something unprecedented no other decent college program would even think about doing. Insane behavior.
 
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