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Historically, IU is the best team in the conference. This is one of the reasons the Big Ten hasn't won a National Championship in 20+ years. If IU isn't challenging for Big Ten titles, NCAA titles, recruiting at the highest level, basically the best team in the conference, there is a problem...

If TJD leaves, it will be worse. We don't have Oladipo or Zeller coming in. Archie isn't changing his stripes.

Sampson beat Painter on the first try: it is the coach, and it matters.

Or, you know how to adjust as a coach and take away what Painter does: both are very possible. Painter's strength is size and shooting, which you have to do when you don't normally land the blue chips. If you recruit well enough, have enough size, have better and more athletic players, and...

On paper, he was a good hire. He went to the NCAA's every year after the Elite 8 year and finished 2, 1, and 1 in conference. Archie certainly has not evolved to a power conference.

He's actually a pretty good coach, just a knucklehead. He beat PU on the first try, made the NCAA's in first year.

Trayce would be even better if we had guards and a small forward that could create their own shot and shoot. There would be less double teams and clogged lane.

You have to see improvement by year 4, and there just hasn't been any. Archie's plateau is a .500 or below Big Ten record, maybe squeaks in the NCAA's. There are just too many holes, and they never get fixed.

Crean wasn't special, neither is Archie. Go find somebody who is.

I've touched the hot stove enough at this point. Archie is what he is. Rather he gets bounced now than in 5 more years.

You have to put your players in a position to succeed, and you have to want it more than the other team: Painter does this, Archie doesn't. There is a reason Archie hasn't beat Painter yet. I think PU cares more, and that makes me want to vomit.

Offense has been pathetic, including shooting. Archie doesn't understand that the Big Ten is a physical league and refuses to recruit adequate size. Recruiting period isn't impressive. It is painful to watch his teams play. Archie is a negative value coach.

Agree, Archie just hasn't been able to evolve from mid-major to the big time. You know what to expect from him by now, and it isn't anything special.

Rather disappointed to say this, get no pleasure from it. If you can't even beat PU at home, you need to go. I'm tired of that, tired of a losing Big Ten record. GTFO. Can't recruit, can't put together a coherent roster. Just not the guy. I can't think of one advantage Archie gives us as a...

Subpar product. If you can't beat PU at home, then get out. How many times does IU have to have a size disadvantage for it to sink in.

I don't think you want to know....

Neither your present coach has been to the FF, nor the prior coach who you named your floor after. I don't think PU should ever be talking about the NCAA's. No other program worth a damn would have kept Matt Painter this long.

Time for Archie to earn his paycheck. Beating PU is one of the things an IU coach needs to do, especially at home. At least an above .500 Big Ten record is also expected.

It wouldn't have hurt having a RB calling the plays against Ole Miss.

I haven't seen anything special from Archie at this point in time. He needs to start beating PU. He needs to recruit better than he has. He needs to contend for Big Ten titles. He needs to get to the Final Four. He hasn't finished with an above .500 Big Ten record or made the NCAA's (might...