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The top 4 conference champions get byes. Boise would have to jump the ACC champion (either undefeated Miami or 1 loss Clemson) AND the B12 champion. BYU and Iowa State are both undefeated and on a collision course in the championship game. Don't think we'll need to worry about Boise being a 4 seed especially considering they already have 1 loss.
If they win out, including their conference championship game, there's a 62% chance they get the 4 seed. It's a flaw in the metrics they're using to seed. Their 1 loss was @ Oregon and they played them really tough. That loss keeps looking better. BYU and Iowa St playing each other in the Big 12 champ is just as likely as Kansas St being in that game. There is so much to left play out that it's a crap shoot to predict the conference champ game winners. That said, it's more likely that Boise St is the 4 seed than either BYU or Iowa St. Now watch Boise St lose at UNLV and make all of that moot.

Memorial Stadium

When I see critiques of the concourses or bathroom wait lines, I wonder if the complainers have ever been to any other older stadium ever? I don't think I've ever been to a sold out stadium, old or new, without those issues. We won't see improvements on any of that without a massive renovation to the stadium - certainly nothing that could be solved in the off-season.

I haven't been to a game at MS in a couple years as I live a flight away, but I was surprised the last time I went to a game that they stopped doing flags/William Tell between the 3rd and 4th. I don't think it answers the stadium song question, but I did think it was a great 3rd to 4th quarter transition that the whole stadium participated in. From this thread, it sounds like they've continued to shun that tradition, unfortunately. I have to say, I don't think I've seen a good stadium song suggestion in this thread. Most feel like suggestions from Grandpa Hoosier.

From watching on TV, I have been really disappointed in the decision to display the most bare bones version of MS. All the on field wall graphics are gone, and all the exterior banners are gone. The exterior banners did need replaced as they had faded to pink, but we should be able to put fresh graphics up everywhere each year. Really a tiny expense for a great visual impact. MS looks so institutional without it. When other schools have gone all out on the in stadium production, with light shows and dramatic presentations, it's disappointing that IU is still showing up like IU, especially considering the great year the team is having. Our production level hasn't changed since the early aughts.

I'll never let a stadium discussion pass without a critique of our matchbox press box. I know they surveyed fans this year about additional seating options. Now is the time to move. IUFB has not had this kind of momentum in our lifetimes. Hope the AD seizes it and moves IU into the current century. All around, gotta do better.

Kelly on Trump

They messed up by not getting Joe to step aside earlier so they could have a real primary.

I couldn't agree more with that.

All we can do is speculate about this alternative history would've played out. But my guess is that Democratic primary voters would have opted for one of their popular governors from purplish states -- most notably Whitmer or Shapiro (assuming they'd have run, of course). And there are some others like Jared Polis, Roy Cooper, even maybe Andy Beshear.

But it was verboten for Dems to even hint at the notion of pushing Biden out of the race. And part of this is that it's an article of faith in political circles that the power of incumbency is one that you never, ever surrender willingly. After the debate debacle, they were left with no choice. Biden wouldn't only have lost, he'd probably have lost bad enough to drag downballot candidates in competitive races with him.

Washington/Indiana Prediction Thread

Hoosiers 45
Huskies 16

As stated above, bet the over and IU to cover. Add in Tayven for 150 yards passing to tease it, I will be doing at least that much, but maybe go to 175 depending on the odds. We have covered and hit the over for 6 straight games and I expect that to continue. If you want to add some more player bets, Ellison to score a rushing TD has been automatic. Sarratt for 50+ receiving is another favorite.

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With the new setup, Boise St will either be the 4 seed with a bye, or the 12 seed with a 1st round road game. I think that's the only major flaw with the 12 team setup. Makes no sense to me that the non P4 qualifier gets special consideration for the 4 seed. I think we will host a 1st round game if we finish 11-1, as the 7/8 seed most likely. Any of the teams that would be at 9/10 will be very good. Most likely predictions today would be TX A&M, Tennessee, or Bama. So much can change though, and my wet dream is hosting ND in Bloomington.
The top 4 conference champions get byes. Boise would have to jump the ACC champion (either undefeated Miami or 1 loss Clemson) AND the B12 champion. BYU and Iowa State are both undefeated and on a collision course in the championship game. Don't think we'll need to worry about Boise being a 4 seed especially considering they already have 1 loss.

Kelly on Trump

I think she could -- she's just been trying to walk a tightrope because of what you're saying. They're kind of stuck on "What are you talking about? The economy's great...and Biden/Harris are responsible for it." And I can fully understand why they are. Much of the economic data is really good. But the voters who she needs to win over don't agree with it.



"Trump already has his negatives baked in."

That's the key point here. And you just get the impression that they believe if they can just keep swinging the bat at him, eventually more people will realize how bad of a person he is and vote accordingly. They see him polling more strongly than they expected -- after all the stuff, the 2020 election lie, January 6th, the rape verdict, the classified documents, etc. etc. -- and they can hardly believe that it's possible he could still be a viable candidate.

So the answer to that is to keep flooding the zone with more evidence that he's awful and those people will finally know the truth about him and will come around?
To your last point, I think there are a bunch of people (myself included) who look at the Democrats and say, "Yeah, this guy is an asshole and he does say stupid stuff and there is a slight risk that he could actually mean some of the stuff he says, BUT, I just dislike everything your party stands for so much that I can't bring myself to vote for you. All your defend Democracy stuff doesn't work because I believe that the way you have reacted to Trump is every bit as damaging to the Republic." As you said, the people who don't like him for him are already going to vote against him. The case she should be making is, "You know what, this border thing, we ****ed up. Some of this stuff we are trying to push in schools is too far. You guys do have some points on those things and I will try and do better so we can come back to a point of detente. I also hear you on the economy and while things appear to be looking up on paper, I understand that 4 years of inflation which included several quarters of extreme inflation are still being felt at your table and here is how we can alleviate that....."

Walz and Vance were having an, "I mostly agree with you except this little thing...." debate. Populism hits many of the same points that traditional Democrat politics used to. I still view Trump as a 90's Clinton Democrat. The party shifted left of him and he stayed pat. Harris was an awful candidate. They messed up by not getting Joe to step aside earlier so they could have a real primary.

Kelly on Trump

I think that had a huge part in getting Joe Biden elected. Similar to the upcoming election, I don't think there was a ton of excitement to vote for either candidate in 2020. I think a lot of people really hated Donald Trump though.
The problem with this is that he won in 2016 -- and he was hated just as much then. And, whether he wins or loses this year, his numbers are clearly better than they were in 2020. And he's hated just as much now as he was before.

Trump lost in 2020 because people were pissed off about the pandemic and all that came with it. Saying it was because enough people finally came to their senses in hating him enough to vote him out is, IMO, projection.

UW QB Will Rogers

Just saw an article suggesting that the Washington game may be Indiana's 1st defeat, as Indiana may be overlooking Washington. Trust Coach Cignetti et al will have the young men juiced & ready for prime time. GO HOO-HOO-HOOSIERS!
It is such a great and completely different feeling to know that IU will NOT lose because they are not prepared or out coached. It will come down to execution and the opponent just being better.
Have to go back to the Mallory days for the same feeling.
GoHoosiers

Congrats Democrats

You’re presupposing they were qualified. Whether it’s the mcat or the lsat whites score highest then Hispanics then blacks
In the aggregate, true. But that doesn't mean individually there aren't individual Hispanics, Blacks, or women that score quite well. I suspect if everyone accepted at MIT were of Asian descent we would hear complaints about bias against Whites.
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A Boise St vs IU matchup would be fun. They can score too.
With the new setup, Boise St will either be the 4 seed with a bye, or the 12 seed with a 1st round road game. I think that's the only major flaw with the 12 team setup. Makes no sense to me that the non P4 qualifier gets special consideration for the 4 seed. I think we will host a 1st round game if we finish 11-1, as the 7/8 seed most likely. Any of the teams that would be at 9/10 will be very good. Most likely predictions today would be TX A&M, Tennessee, or Bama. So much can change though, and my wet dream is hosting ND in Bloomington.

Kelly on Trump

The first part is what crazed is referring to. But after "voters don't know her", your post is just dumb. She crushed Trump in the debate. It was a big success for her. Her interviews have been successful. She needs to do more of them.

I said this right after her interview with Bret Baier. It's not just that she needs to do more interviews, she needs to do them with people who will pose challenging questions as Baier did. I agree with you that it was successful for her. She should find other outlets she can go where the questioning won't be fawning (like "The View", etc.) or just a circle-jerk on dumping on Trump.

Congrats Democrats

I don't know how many people are hired by the Executive Branch, it appears Trump had very few minorities or women in his White House.

Why don't people find that limiting? Is it because many of naturally assume a White male IS automatically the most qualified?

I'll go back to a point I made a few months ago, and in a way @TheOriginalHappyGoat touched on it in his reply, often times 'best" is who we get along with. My point was going back to the 84 Olympics with Barkley not making the team. When Felling pointed out he had been leading the tryouts in points and rebounds Knight replied that he wasn't putting together an all-star team but a team to win the Olympics.

Barkley may have been the best there, certainly he was one of the best. He wasn't asked onto the team. There was something more than being best.

Why do we discount that women and minorities can't be the best by some definition such as willingness to play as part of the team?
No one here has discounted women & minorities, the objection is that ANYONE is discounted, which is what the Biden admin & DEI hiring in general has done. It is indisputable that if not all candidates are considered, the probability that the best candidate wasn’t chosen is higher

Kelly on Trump

Do you think the way for Harris to get these voters to the polls is by directing attention to how much of an asshole Donald Trump is?
I think that had a huge part in getting Joe Biden elected. Similar to the upcoming election, I don't think there was a ton of excitement to vote for either candidate in 2020. I think a lot of people really hated Donald Trump though.

Congrats Democrats

I don't know how many people are hired by the Executive Branch, it appears Trump had very few minorities or women in his White House.

Why don't people find that limiting? Is it because many of naturally assume a White male IS automatically the most qualified?

I'll go back to a point I made a few months ago, and in a way @TheOriginalHappyGoat touched on it in his reply, often times 'best" is who we get along with. My point was going back to the 84 Olympics with Barkley not making the team. When Felling pointed out he had been leading the tryouts in points and rebounds Knight replied that he wasn't putting together an all-star team but a team to win the Olympics.

Barkley may have been the best there, certainly he was one of the best. He wasn't asked onto the team. There was something more than being best.

Why do we discount that women and minorities can't be the best by some definition such as willingness to play as part of the team?
No one here has discounted women & minorities, the objection is that ANYONE is discounted, which is what the Biden admin & DEI hiring in general has. It is indisputable that if not all candidates are considered, the probability that the best candidate wasn’t chosen is higher.
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