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Woodson: "That's on me..." is getting old!

Playing a season with a team that lacks talent is only tolerable if the team plays with max effort. I struggle to root for this team when I see lazy play. Indiana basketball fans demand effort. Sure, we love to win, but if you watch the crowd's responses, they are never as loud as when they watch a good defensive stop. Effort wins the hearts and minds of fans who have to watch a team lose a game.

I'm almost done listening to Woody say, "That's on me" when the team fails to deliver. If he expects to hold players accountable for their lack of effort, then the AD needs to hold him accountable for errors he admits are his fault.
CMW and Shane Steichen have the same coach speak just to please the media. It’s always the “That falls on me, we’ll clean it up, gotta keep chopping wood(like Pagano)”, etc crap that they say after every game. I’d be nice if every coach would just speak their minds on issues without the fears of being fired for saying the wrong things! The fans have the right to know the real issues that go on behind closed doors!

Woodson: "That's on me..." is getting old!

Yup. This team is so lazy on defense it’s disgusting. Look like bunch of pro players who are only concerned about offense. Oh wait that’s right…that’s all Woodson teaches. No blocking out and the amount of just wide open lanes they give the other team is awful. Just freaking lazy ass bums. Hard to watch this type of basketball anymore
The thing is that last night their defensive effort was outstanding to start the game. IU was up 21-5 and UNC Greensboro had a couple of possessions that went down to 2, 1, 0 on the shot clock. Then all of a sudden its like they decided this was enough defense for the night and didn't want to give the effort any more. Gave up wide open shots, drives, and didn't box out!

Memorial Stadium renovations coming?

Both will be impactful. And we don't get to use ALL of the swell of revenue from the TV contracts and stuff for NIL. The time is now to strike while the iron is hot. And I think your NIL point, with regards to donor revenues, is all the more reason to incorporate Sports medicine facilities, sports media facilities, etc... Much better chance to get a significant chunk of money from a guy like Mark Cuban, as an example of one of IU's potential whales...but much better chance if you tap in to things he's passionate about, like Sports management and sports media. That's how you get 500 million for a facility, and keep the NIL revenue streams engaged and pumping in money too.
The football sports medicine facility in Memorial Stadium is less than 10 years old, and is being continually upgraded. Cuban has already made a significant donation to create the Cuban Center in Assembly Hall. I guess I don't see how putting these things under one roof would be a worthwhile investment - especially when we can be using the funds on NIL.

What Michigan is doing with NIL right now should scare everybody - the price to compete with the big boys for top notch recruits is about to skyrocket.
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Woodson: "That's on me..." is getting old!

My opinion is different than yours on the NBA. They play too many games in the regular season an always have. I understand the game is much more of a consumer product and billionaires wouldn't buy teams if there wasn't a massive roi. The skill level of a 5-10 year veteran is better than ever but the style of play and with the rule changes since the 90's the league is almost unwatchable. I'm referring to the regular season. There are some strong individual defenders and a couple of teams that for spurts of regular season games are strong defensively but they usually have multiple individual defenders that take that end seriously. In defense of the 90's and 80's which was the era of the greatest professional basketball, it was too physical for kids to play. The league minimum was a divorce away from bankrupting a 35yo rotation players life. So it was a different game.

The statement before the Olympics that blew my mind was "Team USA will have to adjust to the physicality of FIBA."
That is atrocious. Our women's game is much more physical. The regular season in the NBA is like a cabaret show or a circus of untouched athletic excellence, it's not a man's game of grit. By grit, I mean limiting the opponents best players from scoring by any means necessary.

Woody can't use any of this as an argument because he coached after the league went soft. I do know that he props his ego up with his NBA experience and wants us to believe because he was an OK player and a mediocre coach at the highest level it means that he is an excellent coach at a lesser level. I think by now he no longer believes that.

Mr Yonkman did everything to Woody proof this team with talent and it drew the line in the sand. He'll either figure it out or he's gone. My thoughts are, he's done by the second week of March.
NBA playing an 82 game schedule does lead to some games where the players coast. Many say in the NBA, "The season starts after Christmas." And they've already played 25 or so games by then. I love the NBA, but it the approach is much different than college basketball, at least it should be.

Memorial Stadium renovations coming?

Have you ever been to Nippert? It's a nice stadium and all, but entering at the top and walking down to your seats is a BITCH, especially for us old guys. I've never seen stairs that steep.

The top area is nice, but I prefer our entrances, where you can take ramps to the top level or go in at mid-level for lower level seats.

When we played UC last, I had no desire to take those stairs to even go to the bathroom.
I was specifically referring to their suites that run from 10 yard line to 10 yard line. I just did a quick google for stadiums near our size and then started looking at pics. MS badly needs a new press box, and I think they should build suites from end zone to end zone when they do it. I was just using UC as a model because it fit with our size and what I want to see with suites and a new press box.
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Not that there would be such insane mass substitutions like last night, but.........

Basically impossible for me to know if this is actually correct or not...but damn, it sure appears to be... Woodson doesn't take games like these seriously. And I think its a window in to how he approaches coaching, in general. He isn't a process guy, he doesn't focus on all the little details. He's a relationship guy, he probably focuses a lot on emotion, and he probably uses unrelatable terms like acting like a "grown man"...I can hear him saying things like..."If I need to teach you how to get in a defensive stance, you'll never make the league."

I know the NBA connections criticisms are over used, but at this point, I honestly wonder how much he's actually changed his views and fundamental beliefs from the bulk of his coaching days in the NBA. Because how he talks to the media, how he manages games, a large chunk of the stuff he runs, it really does come off as Carmelo Anthony Era Knicks bball.

I turned the game off last night after the 21-5 start evaporated. I'm sure he'll shorten the bench as the year wears on, its what he normally does. And I'm sure they'll have more energy and be more sharp for the bigger games coming up. But these sorts of coaching and player efforts, are how we'll lose to teams like Penn State and Northwestern in the dog days of the B10 schedule. Woodson won't approach them with urgency...and then as a result, the players won't either.


Great post.....bad thing is, is there a "process" guy on the whole staff? Are there any rebounding drills? Do they ever talk about passing angles? All the rigidity and arrogance is pretty hard to take given the lack of success. You can turn things off and on to a certain extent but it's not a winning attitude.

Indiana/Ohio State Prediction Thread

It wasn’t depth that got us.
They beat us up front in the 2nd half
Not so sure - probably not - that OSU still has an advantage with their OL vs Indy's DL with them losing their starting LT and Center for the remainder of the year just in the last week or so. And their OL was already the weak link on their team. This could be interesting
Woa, IU is not Indy! Maybe just a typo??
The depth OSU has allows rotation of players with less falloff in size and talent. My point is with more depth a team stays fresher in the 2nd half and that’s what happened with Michigan

Not that there would be such insane mass substitutions like last night, but.........

What is the point of mass substitutions? In the NBA I get it. The clock hits a marker and both teams do it.

In college though, why are you doing it? It can disrupt the rhythm and kill momentum. Experimenting with lineups in a game that seems like it’s becoming a blowout is one thing, you can do that by bringing in 1 or 2 off the bench to see how it goes.

Going back to RMK. If it is a problem with all starters playing like they don’t care, and you want to send a message, I can understand that. The bench sends message to the players …. Etc

But, when you are rolling there is zero reason to do it.

I think it is an NBA thing as it seems like Woodson has no "respect" for a halftime lead.....basically has no use for it, and would rather they just play 20 minutes. Problem is, as you point out and we've seen a dozen times over the years, you can't just kick start effort and chemistry once you've thrown it away.

Let's just face facts.....the guy sucks.....and he f***ing never learns. Crazy thing for me is that he was probably my favorite IU player when I was younger.

Woodson: "That's on me..." is getting old!

Playing a season with a team that lacks talent is only tolerable if the team plays with max effort. I struggle to root for this team when I see lazy play. Indiana basketball fans demand effort. Sure, we love to win, but if you watch the crowd's responses, they are never as loud as when they watch a good defensive stop. Effort wins the hearts and minds of fans who have to watch a team lose a game.

I'm almost done listening to Woody say, "That's on me" when the team fails to deliver. If he expects to hold players accountable for their lack of effort, then the AD needs to hold him accountable for errors he admits are his fault.
All of us are either getting old or waiting to be buried.
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Not that there would be such insane mass substitutions like last night, but.........

What would RMK have done when he saw such lack of focus, no motion on offense, and zero blocking out on defense?
Other than the first couple of minutes, that was painful to watch.


At the conclusion of the game I was thinking "Knight would have them out practicing in 30 minutes".
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Woodson: "That's on me..." is getting old!

Once again, feel the need to correct you: D is pretty good in the NBA right now. If you want to say "play like 90's era NBA" I can buy that. Pro ball is really good right now. Like watching the difference between the NFL and college football and no one thinks guys in the NFL are taking plays off. When the salaries escalated NBA players started taking things really seriously and they work at both ends now. Hate to say it, but overall, it's way better ball.
I disagree, I have been to 3 pacer games this year and they play zero defense
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