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In the interest of being "Fair and Balanced"...

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I have no doubt that Fox News is running stories every 10 minutes on the "7-8 factual corrections" that HarperCollins has had to make to Clinton Cash and that one of the "factual sources" the author used was a known hoax. Yes, I'm sure Fox is covering this in the interest of being fair and balanced because as Lagoda has said, they were started so someone could bring us "truth".

How anyone takes this network seriously is beyond me.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/05/14/clinton-cash-edits/
 
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I have no doubt that Fox News is running stories every 10 minutes on the "7-8 factual corrections" that HarperCollins has had to make to Clinton Cash and that one of the "factual sources" the author used was a known hoax. Yes, I'm sure Fox is covering this in the interest of being fair and balanced because as Lagoda has said, they were started so someone could bring us "truth".

How anyone takes this network seriously is beyond me.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/05/14/clinton-cash-edits/
You realize that the article has absolutely nothing to do with Fox News, don't you? Very funny. You are far more funny when you're not trying to be funny.
 
You realize that the article has absolutely nothing to do with Fox News, don't you? Very funny. You are far more funny when you're not trying to be funny.

Uh, yeah, thanks. My post has to do with the non stop coverage Fox News provided for this book and its author like the book was making groundbreaking revelations. Just curious if Fixed "News" was covering this part of the story. I doubt it, but they couldn't talk about the book enough when it came out. You know, the whole "fair and balanced" claim. Thanks for playing.
 
You realize that the article has absolutely nothing to do with Fox News, don't you? Very funny. You are far more funny when you're not trying to be funny.

Oh, I see what threw off those couple of brain cells. It auto corrected the word "this" from "that" for some reason. It was supposed to say "that network" and not "this network". My bad. I didn't mean to cause you so much confusion. I just hope they keep making bigger phones because I'm not shrinking my thumbs anytime soon.
 
Oh, I see what threw off those couple of brain cells. It auto corrected the word "this" from "that" for some reason. It was supposed to say "that network" and not "this network". My bad. I didn't mean to cause you so much confusion. I just hope they keep making bigger phones because I'm not shrinking my thumbs anytime soon.
Very poor way to make that point. Funny too. Thanks.
 
Very poor way to make that point. Funny too. Thanks.

Just another example of you thinking you're gonna show this liberal asshole what's what and you just display your ineptitude, but you do it well. You're welcome to pick fights with me whenever you want. You make me feel smart.
 
Just another example of you thinking you're gonna show this liberal asshole what's what and you just display your ineptitude, but you do it well. You're welcome to pick fights with me whenever you want. You make me feel smart.
You smart? Another funny one.

You must watch a lot of Fox News. You're always talking about them. I have no idea how they're covering the inappropriateness with respect to her job as SecState and all the foreign donations her foundation was receiving and not reporting (although they had signed an agreement with the White House to do so). All I've seen and heard has been from the NYTs, CNN, POTUS and NPR. The facts don't look good for her on that and neither does her inappropriate use of private email while SecState. In both cases she has behaved as usual - as if the rules don't apply to the Clintons. The mainstream press doesn't think these things are nothing, because they're obviously inappropriate and unethical at best and illegal at worst. Whatever Fox News is saying, these issues are not Fox News things.
 
You smart? Another funny one.

You must watch a lot of Fox News. You're always talking about them. I have no idea how they're covering the inappropriateness with respect to her job as SecState and all the foreign donations her foundation was receiving and not reporting (although they had signed an agreement with the White House to do so). All I've seen and heard has been from the NYTs, CNN, POTUS and NPR. The facts don't look good for her on that and neither does her inappropriate use of private email while SecState. In both cases she has behaved as usual - as if the rules don't apply to the Clintons. The mainstream press doesn't think these things are nothing, because they're obviously inappropriate and unethical at best and illegal at worst. Whatever Fox News is saying, these issues are not Fox News things.

Hmmm, you must have a different definition of facts. I'm not a Clinton fan, but all I've seen are allegations, conjectures, and suggestions. Unfortunately I do get stuck watching Fox sometimes. It's torture. And yes, you make me feel smart.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/books/review/jon-ronsons-so-youve-been-publicly-shamed.html?_r=0
I have no doubt that Fox News is running stories every 10 minutes on the "7-8 factual corrections" that HarperCollins has had to make to Clinton Cash and that one of the "factual sources" the author used was a known hoax. Yes, I'm sure Fox is covering this in the interest of being fair and balanced because as Lagoda has said, they were started so someone could bring us "truth".

How anyone takes this network seriously is beyond me.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/05/14/clinton-cash-edits/
The kind of "journalism" Peter Schweizer has done in his book would usually destroy an author's career, but in Wingnutistan, he's elevated to hero status. I'm reading a book right now by Jon Ronson "So You've Publicly Been Shamed" (Link) and he devotes two chapters to an author, Jonah Lehrer whose career was essentially unraveled because of a few made up quotes by Bob Dylan.

Will this happen to Schweizer? Of course not...because the right doesn't care about facts. Global warming, Benghazi!!!, Whitewater, Obama's place of birth, war games in the west/AKA Texas takeover, Al Gore inventing the internet......none of the facts matter. Once it's stuck in the collective craw of the right wing Wurlitzer it's a FACT...no matter what the evidence.
 
Hmmm, you must have a different definition of facts. I'm not a Clinton fan, but all I've seen are allegations, conjectures, and suggestions. Unfortunately I do get stuck watching Fox sometimes. It's torture. And yes, you make me feel smart.
Since you only "feel" smart and aren't actually smart, it's probable you don't know the definition of the word "facts." The actual facts of these two issues look bad for her, but you're apparently incapable of understanding why. No surprise there.
 
You realize that the article has absolutely nothing to do with Fox News, don't you? Very funny. You are far more funny when you're not trying to be funny.
Why even try to defend Fox News? They should be a complete embarrassment to anyone with an IQ over 80.
 
I have no doubt that Fox News is running stories every 10 minutes on the "7-8 factual corrections" that HarperCollins has had to make to Clinton Cash and that one of the "factual sources" the author used was a known hoax. Yes, I'm sure Fox is covering this in the interest of being fair and balanced because as Lagoda has said, they were started so someone could bring us "truth".

How anyone takes this network seriously is beyond me.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/05/14/clinton-cash-edits/
This should be the clincher

The balance of the book is now certified as true and accurate. Confirmed: The Clintons are crooks.
 
"The balance of the book is now certified as true and accurate."

Where did it say that?
 
Since you only "feel" smart and aren't actually smart, it's probable you don't know the definition of the word "facts." The actual facts of these two issues look bad for her, but you're apparently incapable of understanding why. No surprise there.

Ok, thanks for all the "facts" you posted.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/19/books/review/jon-ronsons-so-youve-been-publicly-shamed.html?_r=0
The kind of "journalism" Peter Schweizer has done in his book would usually destroy an author's career, but in Wingnutistan, he's elevated to hero status. I'm reading a book right now by Jon Ronson "So You've Publicly Been Shamed" (Link) and he devotes two chapters to an author, Jonah Lehrer whose career was essentially unraveled because of a few made up quotes by Bob Dylan.

Will this happen to Schweizer? Of course not...because the right doesn't care about facts. Global warming, Benghazi!!!, Whitewater, Obama's place of birth, war games in the west/AKA Texas takeover, Al Gore inventing the internet......none of the facts matter. Once it's stuck in the collective craw of the right wing Wurlitzer it's a FACT...no matter what the evidence.

I think it's funny and scary at the same time. Funny that these people can read or turn on a TV and scary that they are the only ones who vote consistently. I bet this lady votes EVERY election AND goes to church twice a week. She also claims to be a schoolteacher. I wonder if she taught certain folks in the cooler here?
 
I find it comical when any mainstream media outlet is considered "fair and balanced." None qualify. Citing that one is less slanted as a reason to champion another is equally comical. Fox didn't cover the corrections story at all and CNN put one story up days ago. The corrections must not have been all that earth shattering. There are probably far better examples of selective coverage to drag onto the board for any of the "News" outlets.
 
I find it comical when any mainstream media outlet is considered "fair and balanced." None qualify. Citing that one is less slanted as a reason to champion another is equally comical. Fox didn't cover the corrections story at all and CNN put one story up days ago. The corrections must not have been all that earth shattering. There are probably far better examples of selective coverage to drag onto the board for any of the "News" outlets.

Every media outlet is slanted. They always have been. What make Fox News special are two things:
1. With a few exceptions, they don't do news, only propaganda.
2. They heavily market themselves as objective purveyors of reality.

What Fox News does would be far less worthy of criticism if they simply dropped phrases like "Fair and Balanced" and "We report; you decide" and replaced them with "We're conservatives; deal with it."

Even the most respected media outlets will engage in this behavior sometimes. I mean, with the Hillary book, who has been Fox News' partner in crime throughout? The New York Times, generally considered to exist somewhere on the spectrum between genuine journalism and bleeding heart liberalism, depending who you ask. I mean, I don't even like Hillary all that much, but even I felt bad reading what they were saying about her in the Times.

MSNBC has copied FNC's journalistic style (read: business model), but not their marketing campaign. They don't claim to be objective at all.

CNN isn't really slanted as much as it's useless. 99% of what they do can be paraphrased as, "I'm Wolf Blitzer, and I'm on CNN. And you're not."

During the UK election returns, CNN didn't even mention them, instead staying live on Tom Brady's speech at whatever that was, to see if he'd address the report. That's what CNN is now. It's 24 hours per day of TMZ.

BTW, I know it's probably easier, being a much smaller country with a much more simplied electoral process, but the election coverage on BBC was astounding. American outlets could learn a thing or two about how to cover election returns. They spent a lot more time setting up interviews with actual players, and a lot less time playing with holograms.

For the most part I don't watch cable news at all. I get more out of a half our of CBS or NBC in the evening than I do from hours of cable news. If I catch any news on cable, it's almost always going to be BBC or Al Jazeera.
 
During the UK election returns, CNN didn't even mention them, instead staying live on Tom Brady's speech at whatever that was, to see if he'd address the report. That's what CNN is now. It's 24 hours per day of TMZ.

But the Tom Brady story is worthy of that dedication. It was a major sting operation of the most sinister black ops variety. Deepthroat Catcher or umm Outside Shooter will be meeting with Woodward and Bernstein to break that one wide open.

Like I said even though you can paint one channel as being worse than another singling one out just feels of giving the others legitimacy on the basis of being less felonious. But I am about as cynical as it gets when it comes to mainstream "News."
 
Every media outlet is slanted. They always have been. What make Fox News special are two things:
1. With a few exceptions, they don't do news, only propaganda.
2. They heavily market themselves as objective purveyors of reality.

What Fox News does would be far less worthy of criticism if they simply dropped phrases like "Fair and Balanced" and "We report; you decide" and replaced them with "We're conservatives; deal with it."

Even the most respected media outlets will engage in this behavior sometimes. I mean, with the Hillary book, who has been Fox News' partner in crime throughout? The New York Times, generally considered to exist somewhere on the spectrum between genuine journalism and bleeding heart liberalism, depending who you ask. I mean, I don't even like Hillary all that much, but even I felt bad reading what they were saying about her in the Times.

MSNBC has copied FNC's journalistic style (read: business model), but not their marketing campaign. They don't claim to be objective at all.

CNN isn't really slanted as much as it's useless. 99% of what they do can be paraphrased as, "I'm Wolf Blitzer, and I'm on CNN. And you're not."

During the UK election returns, CNN didn't even mention them, instead staying live on Tom Brady's speech at whatever that was, to see if he'd address the report. That's what CNN is now. It's 24 hours per day of TMZ.

BTW, I know it's probably easier, being a much smaller country with a much more simplied electoral process, but the election coverage on BBC was astounding. American outlets could learn a thing or two about how to cover election returns. They spent a lot more time setting up interviews with actual players, and a lot less time playing with holograms.

For the most part I don't watch cable news at all. I get more out of a half our of CBS or NBC in the evening than I do from hours of cable news. If I catch any news on cable, it's almost always going to be BBC or Al Jazeera.

"We're conservatives; deal with it."

I don't think you really watch Fox news except for the commentariat. Shep Smith? Conservative? Maybe, but he sure doesn't show it. I've heard him give some very liberal POV's during the cop shooting events. Chris Wallace? Do you think he is conservative? I frankly can't tell what he is other than to try an immitate his old man; only Chris is much better. Megyn Kelly? Likely she is conservative but that gives her an advantage when interviewing conservatives. She has made more conservatives look like bumbling idiots than George Stephanopoulos, Chuck Todd and Bob Schieffer can only hope to do. She also does a much better job of hiding her colors than those three if indeed she has any. If NBC, ABC, or CBS wants to put their Sunday morning show on the map, they should hire her in a nanosecond.
 
"We're conservatives; deal with it."

I don't think you really watch Fox news except for the commentariat. Shep Smith? Conservative? Maybe, but he sure doesn't show it. I've heard him give some very liberal POV's during the cop shooting events. Chris Wallace? Do you think he is conservative? I frankly can't tell what he is other than to try an immitate his old man; only Chris is much better. Megyn Kelly? Likely she is conservative but that gives her an advantage when interviewing conservatives. She has made more conservatives look like bumbling idiots than George Stephanopoulos, Chuck Todd and Bob Schieffer can only hope to do. She also does a much better job of hiding her colors than those three if indeed she has any. If NBC, ABC, or CBS wants to put their Sunday morning show on the map, they should hire her in a nanosecond.

I don't know for sure what Shep Smith's politics are, but I suspect he's probably the most liberal person on FNC. He does sometimes hide his more leftist leanings, or at least temper them, but I expect they are still there. Based on some of the conversations he's had with regular guests, like Judge Napolitano, I'd guess Shep is more of a libertarian leftist than a socialist leftist. But it would be just a guess. I didn't see any of his comments about the cops, but his opinions on marriage equality and torture - to name two I can think of off the top of my head - sounded like they came straight out of the Democrat party platform.

Chris Wallace is a conservative and a Democrat. He's open about that. I'd consider him moderate more than anything, myself. I'd also consider him the most objective voice on all of Fox News.

One thing I note about both Smith and Wallace is that neither one of them is afraid to take their own colleagues to task when called for. Smith's handling of the Shirley Sherrod hullaballoo was especially strong. He essentially said, "Well, pretty much everyone else on this network reported this story, and we didn't do it on our show, because we thought it was BS. And guess what, it was BS." He continued lambasting both the media for how they reported the story and the White House for how they handled it.

Megyn Kelly is obviously a conservative, but she also clearly holds some more leftist views on certain topics. She's also one of the smartest people on FNC. Her ability to troll other conservatives so successfully makes her even more popular, because it widens her appeal to include liberals, too. That's part of her genius. She knows how important it is to be seen has having a strong independent streak. I think Megyn Kelly is best summed up by her beat down of Karl Rove on election night in 2012. I'd bet money she voted for Romney, but she knew that Rove's ramblings about the returns were just lunacy. Her entire performance that night was spectacular, in fact, and the reason she got promoted.

No, I don't really watch Fox News very much. I don't watch MSNBC or CNN, for the most part. I don't like them. But I've watched all of them enough to make pretty solid critiques of what is wrong with all three. And, quite honestly, when I do watch Fox, it's almost exclusively the three people you mentioned. If Hannity's on, I just flip right past it. Unless he's interviewing the Judge. I always stop to listen to what the Judge has to say, no matter which show it is.
 
Uh, yeah, thanks. My post has to do with the non stop coverage Fox News provided for this book and its author like the book was making groundbreaking revelations. Just curious if Fixed "News" was covering this part of the story. I doubt it, but they couldn't talk about the book enough when it came out. You know, the whole "fair and balanced" claim. Thanks for playing.
Up until not long ago, I thought Aloha was one of the few cons who were reasonable; he had guts to call a spade a spade sometimes. Whatever happened since, he is turning into another binary con. He is singing the same song like the rest of them. Whenever logic escapes him, he resorts to name-calling just like the rest of them. It must be because of his native son, Obama the Evil. Oops, I should've said Kenyan. :(

I hope he will come back to what he used to be: a conservative with conscience. :)
 
Up until not long ago, I thought Aloha was one of the few cons who were reasonable; he had guts to call a spade a spade sometimes. Whatever happened since, he is turning into another binary con. He is singing the same song like the rest of them. Whenever logic escapes him, he resorts to name-calling just like the rest of them. It must be because of his native son, Obama the Evil. Oops, I should've said Kenyan. :(

I hope he will come back to what he used to be: a conservative with conscience. :)
To be fair, SHF kind of poked him with his comment about brain cells. I probably would have replied with even more snark than Aloha did, if it were me.
 
To be fair, SHF kind of poked him with his comment about brain cells. I probably would have replied with even more snark than Aloha did, if it were me.
I don't know who or what meridian is talking about here. I was merely remarking that SHF's post about Fox News seemed to have nothing to do with Fox News as the link never mentioned it.
 
I don't know who or what meridian is talking about here. I was merely remarking that SHF's post about Fox News seemed to have nothing to do with Fox News as the link never mentioned it.

No, the link had to do with a story about a book that Fox was promoting the hell out of. Fox claims to be "fair and balanced" so when the story about the edits in the book came out, err, flat out lies in the book having to be edited, I was pointing out that Fox probably didn't talk about that for 2 seconds. Fox ran stories about that book every 3 minutes and had interview after interview discussing the book. More than a few here claim that Fox only speaks the truth and really is "fair and balanced". I notice none of them have bothered to touch this. I wouldn't have a problem with what they do if their tag line was what Goat suggested. "Fair.........and balanced" *wink*
 
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